"I must awaken hunger in their hearts, for until they hunger they cannot be fed." - Mattie "Mama" Payne

2.12.2026

The He Goats Before the Flocks - Part 1

Below is but a small measure of revelation that my father had received from the Lord. I hope this will be a blessing to you. All that is written below are the words of my father.

9/29/22 
In loving memory of my father
Robert Louis (Bob) Padgett
July 28, 1931-May 22, 2023


The Apostle Paul, six different times, said, "I would not that ye should be ignorant" (Romans 1:13, Romans 11:25, 1 Corinthians 10:1, 1 Corinthians 12:1, 2 Corinthians 1:8, and 1 Thessalonians 4:13). To whom did Paul say that? to born-from-above, Spirit-filled Christians of his time, our time, and all of time. The Apostle Peter said the same thing in 2 Peter 3:18. That makes seven times. "Seven" in Scripture represents completeness or perfection. Whenever any word in Scripture is repeated two or three times, we need to pay particular attention. But for a word to be repeated seven times ... well, we dare not brush it aside.

No man, at least in the natural realm, likes to be called "ignorant." It is a rather harsh-sounding word which bruises our ego. "Ignorance" implies a lack of knowledge of something or someone. From Scripture, the word also can imply a dislike, disinterest, or unwillingness to learn. Every one of us Christians are ignorant to some degree. At least I will speak for myself. Although the Lord over the years has given me much revelation knowledge, I am well aware that what the Lord has made real to me over the past 55 years does not compare with the truth which is Jesus. I am daily amazed at the richness of the Word of God, of which there is no end.

Today, a great multitude of born-from-above, Spirit-filled Christians can quote many Scriptures and have heard and read many things about the Bible. We have become supersaturated with Christian books, tapes, videos, TV evangelists, "prophetic" conferences, and DVDs, in addition to our regular Sunday morning messages from our pastors and ministers. As a result, in some cases we tend to develop an "I know that" mentality. I doubt that there has ever been another human being who has received as much revelation as the Apostle Paul. Yet Paul said, 

"That I may know Him, and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being made conformable unto His death; if by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead" (Philippians 3:10-11). 

If Paul, after 30 years of ministry could desire that he might know the Lord Jesus, and that is what he said, where does that leave me and you?

Seven years ago, the Lord allowed me to write and have printed a book titled, "Understanding the Times." I still have several hundred of those books and I will be happy to postal mail to you as many copies that you can distribute, absolutely free. I also pay postage. Just email me with any postal mailing address to bob.padgett@verizon.net and tell me how many copies you would like. Hindsight, after seven years, I doubt that I would change much, if anything, that I wrote back then. However, there are definitely some things that I would add. I believe we all could make the same declaration. Every born-from-above believer can look back over time and recognize that the Lord, by the power of the Holy Spirit, has been changing us more and more into His image.

Almost 16 years ago, the Lord prompted me to write a book titled, "The He Goats Before the Flocks." That book is about the making of a Christian leader, the character of a Christian leader, the functions of a Christian leader, personal and corporate maturity, and the functioning of the body of Christ. Again, I doubt that I would change much to that book, but I would definitely add a few things. That is the purpose of this series of messages, titled "The He Goats Before the Flocks," which is intimately related to "Understanding the Times."

Jeremiah 50:8 says, "Remove out of the midst of Babylon, and go forth out of the land of the Chaldeans, and be as the he goats before the flocks."

Babylon, of course, represents the ways of the world, particularly with respect to materialism. Chaldea for about four centuries was a small country just south of Babylon before being absorbed by Babylon. The land was very rich, fertile, and prosperous in the natural realm. The name is also associated with divination, astrology, and idolatry. The Lord called Abraham out from Ur of the Chaldees. The Lord always, including today, calls His chosen people out of spiritual Babylon and Chaldea.

Man's efforts will always fail! All of the many enticements, entertainment, appealing "programs," etc., in order to bring people unto the Lord are as wood, hay, and stubble. If each believer is listening to the Spirit and obeying the Lord, then the Lord, not man, will add to the Church daily those who should be saved (Acts 2:47) because the Lord Jesus, not man, is building His church.

BUT ... whenever it is God's timetable to make a significant move in the earth, He always looks for a man through whom He can work. In times past, such men were Abraham, Moses, Samuel, Gideon, David, Elijah, Ezra, John the Baptist, and Paul, to name but a few. I believe that God is looking for such men now. From our observation and experience, as well as from scripture, the major problems have always been, and still are, with Christian leaders. The Lord is looking for he-goats before the flocks. A he-goat is a trail blazer; a pioneer; someone who goes before; someone who dares to speak the pure word of God with no thought of the consequences. The Man, Jesus, was and is the Master of all he-goats. John the Baptist was such a man. Stephen was such a man. Paul was such a man. He was "one born out of due time" (1 Corinthians 15:8). A modern-day he-goat is one, who like Jesus, comes to afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted. He comes to call into line those who are out of line; he comes to upset that which man has set up. He marches to a different drummer. He is ordained by God but disdained by man. He has no price tags and will not compromise. Like Jeremiah, the word of the Lord is in his heart as a burning fire shut up in his bones, and he cannot stay (Jeremiah 20:9).

About 47 ago, Derek Prince, who was one of the best and most prominent teachers in the world at that time, came to one of our New Testament house church meetings. I only remember two things that he said. He said, "If the Bible did not say "despise not prophesyings" (1 Thessalonians 5:20), then he would despise prophesying." I am sure that was because he had heard a lot of prophesying that was tainted with flesh. The other thing he said was (quote), "I hear that you folks (speaking of our local fellowship) are like the he goats before the flocks." (end quote) That certainly was true then and for a short season thereafter.

God has revealed more of Himself and His word over the years. But there is coming a time when God is going to roll everything back up into Himself. A possible analogy is that of unrolling a scroll so as to read what is written thereon and then rolling the scroll back up.

Isaiah 34:4, "And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll."

Isaiah 40:5, "And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it."

Three verses that clearly show that God has chosen to reveal more of Himself and His word over a period of time are:

1 Peter 1:20, "Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you."

Ephesians 3:5, "Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto His holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit."

2 Peter 1:12, "Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth."

The fact that there was "present truth" in Peter's time on earth seems to imply that there is more truth yet to be revealed. Paul said, concerning Jesus, in 

Hebrews 5:10-11, "Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec. Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing." 

Have you ever wondered what many things Paul had received that were hard to be uttered?

Paul also said, in 2 Corinthians 12:1-4, "It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter." 

Have you ever wondered about the unspeakable words that Paul heard which is not lawful for a man to utter? Certainly, every word is lawful for the Lord to utter, if He so chooses.

God's revelation, by His Spirit, is not simply TO us, but WITHIN us. The Word of God must become flesh. For example,

Colossians 1:26-27, "Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to His saints: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory." 

But there will come a time when God folds everything back up. Many believers, including me, sense the folding up is near at hand.

Hebrews 1:12, "And as a vesture shalt Thou fold them up, and they shall be changed ..."

1 Corinthians 15:28, "And when all things shall be subdued unto Him, then shall the Son also Himself be subject unto Him that put all things under Him, that God may be all in all." 

We are living in a time of great acceleration, both in the natural realm and in the spiritual realm. People are running to and fro and knowledge has increased. This is also a season when the Holy Spirit is shedding much light on the Word of God.

Perhaps two years after the Lord sovereignly apprehended me, He made it very clear to me the specific purpose for which He had created me. As I mentioned to Greg a few months ago, I believe that this website is a God-ordained avenue for at least a partial fulfillment of the ministry that the Lord put me into. Over the years, some believers have asked me what is my ministry. I have always replied that I have no ministry. Every ministry for every Christian is the Lord's ministry through us. Only the Christ within is able to minister the things of the Lord and bring fruit both within and to others. I am 91 years old in the flesh. Only the Lord knows how much more time He has for me on earth. However, I have always believed that the Lord will never take anyone home to be with Him before we complete the purpose for which we were created, provided that we desire to glorify the Lord by fulfilling that purpose. Although the Lord knows everything, I believe that I have not yet completed my specific purpose. I have rarely shared with anyone privately and never publicly what ministry the Lord put me into. The Lord called me primarily to minister to leaders of local churches.

For 50+ years I interpreted that to mean that I would minister in conferences to church leaders of perhaps 10-20 at a time. Perhaps that was because of all of the traditional and typical church conferences that have been held over the past 100 or more years. In other words, I never knew there was another way. That brings up a good principle which I have been aware of for many long years. Sometimes we may hear a word from the Lord correctly but then try to implement or walk in that word incorrectly because of pre-existing traditions.

This message, and all those to follow in this series, is primarily for leaders in the Church, but I use the word "leader" in a very broad, comprehensive way, as we shall see shortly. Many years ago, I went to a "leadership conference" in Pennsylvania. That conference was put on by a solid man of God who loved the Lord. I will call his name Sam (not his real name). Most of those who attended were leaders in various local churches across many different states. When that conference was over, I asked Sam what he saw as the purpose of his conference. He said that most of those who came did not see each other very often, so it was just a time to get together and have good food and fellowship together. I replied that I believed the purpose of any leadership conference, as I see it, should be to elevate the vision of local church leaders so that they, in turn, might go back to their own churches and elevate the vision of those in their local church. He did not respond to what I said.

There may be a number of born-from-above believers who have never known the specific ministry for which they were created. However, the hand does not need to know that it is called a "hand" in order to function as a hand. As long as our utmost desire is to glorify God, then all of us will fulfill His ministry through us on earth.

2 Corinthians 3:18, "But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord." 

That verse is very important. The key to the maturity of every believer is to have an open face. That speaks of a flexible and humble spirit. Man, sometimes even Christian man, does not like change. Many denominational and some charismatic churches of some size have both a "traditional" service and a separate "contemporary" service. That tends to keep everybody in the local church happy. I have a problem with that. That is man's approach to what we call a worship service.

How do we change? By looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith ... by being obedient to the Holy Spirit.

The closer we walk with the Lord ... the more we allow the Holy Spirit to reveal His Truth to us ... the more we allow the Holy Spirit to change us into His image, the more we will be misunderstood and the more difficult it will be for us to try to explain to others what we have experienced. Anyone who really seeks only the will of God is a person who marches to a different drummer. That person will be marked as "different." People do NOT like to be branded as "different." Salvation is FREE, but it cost the life of Jesus. To enter into the Kingdom of God is NOT free ... it will cost us OUR self-life. May that love relationship we are honored to have with Christ propel us into fulfilling His purpose within us.

Another purpose of these messages is hopefully to clarify somewhat a solid principle concerning how we can discern better the soon coming of the Lord. That principle is recorded in 

1 Corinthians 15:46, "Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual." 

In these messages I hope to illustrate that principle both from scripture and from the natural events that are occurring in the world.

At this point in time, almost every Spirit-filled Christian has read and/or heard of the crisis that exists in the world and in the Church today. The conditions that exist in the Church include materialism in various forms, idolatry, mixture, compromise, immorality, religious hypocrisy, doctrinal error of every sort, lack of understanding, and lack of discernment.

In addition, we are hunted by the adversary simply because we are believers. A mouse is a prey for a cat. What did the mouse do to deserve being a prey for a cat? Nothing! It was simply born a mouse. The second, third, and fourth generation of the Israelites who were in bondage and captivity in Egypt were also a prey. They had grown up in an environment and all they knew was a life of bondage. They had never experienced anything else. What had they done to deserve being in bondage? Nothing! They simply were born into that environment. They never knew there was a better way. Finally, after 400 years of increasing bondage, suffering, and hardship, the Israelites cried out to God and God sent a deliverer, Moses, who led them out of Egypt. How many years will it take for the Church today to cry out to God?

In like manner, many charismatic believers today have grown up in an environment and just assume that their leaders are teaching the ultimate truth. These lovely believers have never known there may be a higher way! Too many Christian leaders walk in the traditions of men and assume that what they have been taught is 100% true. But we all need to be before the Lord, seeking for His understanding and wisdom in all things. That does NOT mean that we have to strive to hear what the Spirit is saying to the Churches! The Lord knows our heart. When our heart is right and open to the leading of the Spirit, the Lord just comes upon us, many times when we are least expecting such a move of the Spirit.

No man sees all of the truth. When I eat a grape, I eat the pulp and spit out the seed. Nevertheless, we challenge every Christian leader to listen to what the Spirit may say to your heart. When Paul and Silas were sent from the church at Jerusalem to Berea, 

(Acts 17:11-12), "These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few." 

How many Christians today search the scriptures daily whether what we hear from ministers are so?

Now let us consider the making of a Christian leader.

Proverbs 30:27, "The locusts have no king, yet they go forth all of them by bands [or gathered together]."

A flock of some birds can manage very well without a leader. It is a mystery to see a flock of birds all turn at the same time in the same direction. In the lives of men, however, leadership is very important. Someone once said that everything rises or falls on leadership. It is not possible for men to co-exist peacefully and succeed in life without leadership as designed by God. The Bible makes it clear that God, not men, not a seminary, not a Bible school, is in charge of choosing leaders.

Daniel 5:21, "The most high God rules in the kingdom of men, and He appointeth over it whomsoever He will."

Daniel 2:21, "And He changeth the times and the seasons: He removeth kings, and setteth up kings: He giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding." 

Many believers tend to think that a leader is either one of the five-fold ministries of apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, and teacher or an elder. Of course, the great majority of local churches today are pastor-dominated. However, a Christian leader is not a leader simply because of his/her position, office, or ministry. Someone can have positional authority but still have no spiritual authority, which is given by God.

Matthew 28:18-19a, "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto Me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore ..."

The word "power," in that verse is the Greek word exousia, which is more commonly translated as "authority." The President of the United States, for example, has great positional authority simply because of his position. But he has little, if any, spiritual authority. The Supreme Court of the United States likewise has great positional authority but little, if any, spiritual authority. Unfortunately, there are too many Church leaders who have great positional authority but little spiritual authority. These are self-made ministers who are seeking, perhaps unknowingly, to build their own kingdom rather than the kingdom of God. Positional authority, both outside and inside the Church, has always challenged spiritual authority in a preemptive attempt to forestall the judgment of God. That is certainly true of today.

Each one of us has some dimension of authority in our life. A man's home is his castle. Each father has some authority over his own household. However, we are fast approaching the day when God is going to pour out His spiritual authority on His people who qualify for the kingdom. One of the ways that we qualify is by demonstrating a desire to use properly what He has already given.

Matthew 25:21, "His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord."

One of the biggest problems within leaders of the Church today is developmental. When positional authority exceeds spiritual authority, then the believers suffer under ministerial immaturity. Unless leaders yield to the application of the cross, they will forfeit future power and authority. At some point God demands that position match power or position is forfeited. The most dangerous thing we can do is to seek a position for which we are not yet empowered. Today's widespread practice of naming individuals as apostolic or prophetic creates a huge area of concern. Even though I have limited open doors, I have met about a dozen men in my life who all call themselves apostles. Are good leaders being set up for failure? If they are out of place and assuming positions either not called to, or before character development has qualified them for parallel power, the result is the same ... heartache and failure. The Church has a rising tide of pollution from so-called "apostles" and "prophets" without power. To submit to the Holy Spirit and His leadership is perhaps the major challenge of our day because He never promotes prematurely! From our limited exposure, it appears that God today is giving spiritual authority to those who have no positional authority. That creates an explosive atmosphere, complete with fireworks. Far too many pastors, even of charismatic/pentecostal churches, do not like to have their positional authority challenged! But that is exactly what happened when Jesus confronted the Pharisees and Sadducees when He walked the face of the earth as a man. As a result, Jesus was crucified! 

Jesus said, in Luke 23:31, "For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry?"

The green tree is Jesus, the living word, in whom alone is life; the dry tree, which is usually brown, represents all those who have rejected the kingdom. A brown tree has no life in itself. Spiritual authority is not for the faint of heart! Choosing God's way means choosing the cross. The cross is the path to power.

In addition, a person's physical appearance, worldly education, financial situation, personality, or speaking ability has no bearing on whether or not a Christian is a leader. There is absolutely NOTHING in the natural realm that makes a person a Christian leader. You may be the most polished speaker in the world; you may know all about hermeneutics, homiletics, apologetics, and exegesis; you may have a Doctor of Theology or a Doctor of Divinity degree; you may have a very strong, forceful, persuasive personality; you may have much worldly power and wealth; you may be the best-looking person on earth; and you even may have memorized ALL of Scripture; but all of those things, plus five dollars, will get you a cup of coffee in most places. Yes, you may well impress many people, but you will still be of little value to God unless you have far more spiritual substance.

Acts 4:13, "Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus."

That which is woven into a Christian leader is that they are following the Lord Jesus Christ, have been called by God, have been sent by God, and have allowed the Holy Spirit to break them of selfish desires, and to make them into the vessel that He desires. Paul said, "Follow me," because he was following Christ. Amos said, in 

Amos 7:14-15, "I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was a herdman, and a gatherer of sycamore fruit: And the Lord took me as I followed the flock, and the Lord said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."

Instead of "what makes a Christian a leader?" it would be more accurate to ask, "Who makes a Christian a leader?" The "what" is not a thing but a Person ... the Lord Jesus Christ. He is the One who makes a Christian a leader as we yield to the moving of His Spirit.

More importantly, perhaps, how does this word apply to those of you who are listening to this message? Sadly, too many times, some Christians hear what is perhaps a good word, agree with word, even say Amen, and then go back to what they were doing, as if the word has no practical effect on their life. I have seen that in operation too many times. After the Lord on May 30, 1980, told us very clearly to leave the New Testament house church of which we had been a functioning elder for 12 years, I asked to share a word with the remaining elders. They agreed. I shared what the Lord had given to me about church government. I am sure I have shared that on this website some time in the past. When I finished, one of the elders said, and I quote verbatim, "That was the best teaching I have ever heard on church government. Now let's get back to what we were doing." (end quote)

Let me share with you how this message applies to everyone listening tonight as well as those who may listen some time later. As I indicated earlier, my definition of a Christian leader is more comprehensive and more specific than the traditional understanding. I have no idea who or how many are listening now or in the future. But if the utmost desire of your heart is above all else to glorify God, and you are following the Lord to the best of your conscious awareness, then you are a leader in the Church. That makes you a great woman, as in 2 Kings, chapter 4, verse 8, or a great man as in 2 Kings, chapter 5, verse 1. I have believed that for many years. That should be a word of great encouragement and empowerment to you. I have always been very fortunate and very blessed to be a nobody in the church that the Lord Jesus is building. If you likewise are a nobody, you too are greatly blessed.

To conclude this message, I want to share with you an event in the Old Testament that all of you are familiar with. It is the account of Gideon, as recorded in Judges, chapters 6, 7, and 8.

Judges 6:1, "And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD: and the LORD delivered them into the hand of Midian seven years.

Midian, which means "strife" or "contention," was a son of Abraham by his third wife, Keturah. Is there any strife and contention in the world today? Is the church divided today?

Then the Lord raised up Gideon, who threw down the altar of Baal that his father, Joash, had. For that, his father called him Jerubbaal. That action infuriated the Midianites.

Judges 6:33, "Then all the Midianites and the Amalekites and the children of the east were gathered together, and went over, and pitched in the valley of Jezreel."
 
Jezreel means "God sows."

Then Gideon called for help from the tribes of Asher, Zebulon, and Naphtali to do battle with the Midianites and their allies, which consisted of 135,000 men. Gideon's army contained 32 thousand men.

Next, from Judges 7:2-9, "And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people that are with thee are too many for me to give the Midianites into their hands, lest Israel vaunt themselves against me, saying, Mine own hand hath saved me. Now therefore go to, proclaim in the ears of the people, saying, Whosoever is fearful and afraid, let him return and depart early from mount Gilead. And there returned of the people twenty and two thousand; and there remained ten thousand. And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people are yet too many; bring them down unto the water, and I will try them for thee there: and it shall be, that of whom I say unto thee, This shall go with thee, the same shall go with thee; and of whomsoever I say unto thee, This shall not go with thee, the same shall not go. So he brought down the people unto the water: and the LORD said unto Gideon, Every one that lappeth of the water with his tongue, as a dog lappeth, him shalt thou set by himself; likewise every one that boweth down upon his knees to drink. And the number of them that lapped, putting their hand to their mouth, were three hundred men: but all the rest of the people bowed down upon their knees to drink water. And the LORD said unto Gideon, By the three hundred men that lapped will I save you, and deliver the Midianites into thine hand: and let all the other people go every man unto his place. So the people took victuals in their hand, and their trumpets: and he sent all the rest of Israel every man unto his tent, and retained those three hundred men: and the host of Midian was beneath him in the valley. And it came to pass the same night, that the LORD said unto him, Arise, get thee down unto the host; for I have delivered it into thine hand."

Judges 7:12, "And the Midianites and the Amalekites and all the children of the east lay along in the valley like grasshoppers for multitude; and their camels were without number, as the sand by the sea side for multitude."

Judges 7:16-23, "And he divided the three hundred men into three companies, and he put a trumpet in every man's hand, with empty pitchers, and lamps within the pitchers. And he said unto them, Look on me, and do likewise: and, behold, when I come to the outside of the camp, it shall be that, as I do, so shall ye do. When I blow with a trumpet, I and all that are with me, then blow ye the trumpets also on every side of all the camp, and say, The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon. So Gideon, and the hundred men that were with him, came unto the outside of the camp in the beginning of the middle watch; and they had but newly set the watch: and they blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers that were in their hands. And the three companies blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers, and held the lamps in their left hands, and the trumpets in their right hands to blow withal: and they cried, The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon. And they stood every man in his place round about the camp: and all the host ran, and cried, and fled. And the three hundred blew the trumpets, and the LORD set every man's sword against his fellow, even throughout all the host: and the host fled to Bethshittah in Zererath, and to the border of Abelmeholah, unto Tabbath. And the men of Israel gathered themselves together out of Naphtali, and out of Asher, and out of all Manasseh, and pursued after the Midianites."

Judges 8:28, "Thus was Midian subdued before the children of Israel, so that they lifted up their heads no more. And the country was in quietness forty years in the days of Gideon." 

If all we receive from the account of Gideon is an historic event, then we miss the mark. As with all of Scripture we need to ask what that means for us today.

Two of the obvious gleanings are the sovereignty and power of God. We might recall a similar account in Genesis 14 when God plus Abraham and his 318 men defeated perhaps a hundred thousand of the armies of four "good" kings. In addition, the original 32,000 of Gideon's army represent born-from-above believers. None of their names are recorded. They are "nobodies." The 10,000 who were left after the first cut are also baptized in the Holy Spirit, exercise gifts of the Spirit, and are like the Levites in Ezekiel 44 who committed abominations, but the Lord still uses them to minister to the people. The 300 represent the remnant, the overcomers over all of time, those Levitical priests in Ezekiel 44 who minister to the Lord. They also represent the priests, the ministers of the Lord who weep between the porch and the altar (Joel 2:17). When Joel 2:17 is fulfilled, the Lord Himself consummates His final victory.

Leonard Ravenhill once said, "I'd rather have ten people that want God than 10,000 people who want to play church. I want to see the glory of God come so our young people don't have to be told to go (to church), (but when) they just long to get to the sanctuary where God is.
The apostles had no gold, but lots of glory. We have lots of gold, but no glory. God wants to bring us into a glory we know nothing about." (end quote)

I can think of no better conclusion to this message than what the Apostle Paul said, in 

Philippian 3:13-14, "Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus." 

Amen and amen.




2.11.2026

The Fear Of The Lord

Below is but a small measure of revelation that my father had received from the Lord. I hope this will be a blessing to you. All that is written below are the words of my father.

The Fear Of The Lord 
In loving memory of my father
Robert Louis (Bob) Padgett
July 28, 1931-May 22, 2023


Love is a word that is very commonly talked about in Christian circles. Jesus said,

A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. John 13:34

No serious Christian could ever argue about the genuine love of God for us and that we should also love one another as Christ loves us. The apostle John also said,

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. 
1 John 4:18

However, we need to be very careful here. Fear and love, in the above verse, appear to be opposites. But we need to examine ALL of scripture and we need to understand what Jesus and the Holy Spirit through John are saying. 

NO ONE is maturing in the Lord without the proper fear of the Lord made real within him. The enemy knows this; therefore the enemy distorts many scriptures to try to dispel the fear of the Lord. Most of the "modern" translations change the word "fear" of the Lord to "respect" or "reverence." That kind of change is a tragedy! We should NOT fear anything or anyone EXCEPT the Lord Himself.

A son honoureth his father, and a servant his master: if then I be a father, where is Mine honour? And if I be a master, where is My fear? saith the Lord of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise My name, And ye say, Wherein have we despised thy name? Malachi 1:6

But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. Malachi 4:2

Just in case someone may say that scripture is in the Old Testament and no longer applies, consider what Jesus said:

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matthew 10:28

Who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell? Only the Lord Himself! There are MANY verses in the New Testament that talk about the fear of the Lord. Here again, we need to be very careful. The fear of the Lord does NOT invoke a picture of Someone who has a big stick and is ready to pounce on us if we make a mistake. Moreover, just because something "bad" happens does NOT necessarily mean that we have done something wrong. Losses and sufferings happen to good people. We must always ask the Lord what we need to hear from Him regarding our difficulty. Then, let us journey on in the Lord. What God takes away from us is not important; what is important is WHAT WE DO WITH WHAT IS LEFT! A very familiar verse is:

The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever. Psalm 19:9

This "clean" fear is the awe and reverence which a man feels in the presence of God. It also includes a determination not to grieve the Lord through our thoughts or actions. 

The verse in Malachi 1:6 indicates that the people no longer had a fear of the Lord. The reason was because they had become apostate ... everything had been reduced to a form, a ritual, a tradition. These two events go together ... apostasy and a lack of a fear of the Lord. Moreover, when there is no fear of the Lord, the door is opened to all manner of sin, off-center doctrines, and worse. That is what happened to the Church at Corinth. That is what we see TODAY in His church ... sin, off-center doctrines, and worse. Could it be that we have lost the understanding of the fear of the Lord? Perhaps the most important key to understanding the ways of the Lord is the fear of the Lord.

Blessed is every one that feareth the Lord; that walketh in His ways.
Psalm 128:1

That verse clearly shows a relationship between fearing the Lord and understanding His ways. For until we understand His ways we cannot walk in His ways.

The fear of the Lord is also intimately related to wisdom. Oh how the body of Christ today needs the wisdom of God!

And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding. Job 28:28

Solomon is generally regarded as a man who had much wisdom from God.

Lo, I [the Lord] have given thee [Solomon] a wise and understanding heart; so that there was none like thee before thee, neither after thee shall any arise like unto thee. 1 Kings 3:12

And God gave Solomon wisdom and understanding exceeding much, and largeness of heart, even as the sand that is on the sea shore. 1 Kings 4:29

Listen to what Solomon had to say about fearing the Lord:

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. Ecclesiastes 12:13

The fear of the Lord is also closely related to obedience.

And he [the angel of the Lord] said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me. Genesis 22:12

Now we need to have some understanding concerning what IS the fear of the Lord. Certainly one big aspect of the fear of the Lord is:

The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogance, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate. Proverbs 8:13

Let all the earth fear the Lord: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of Him. Psalm 33:8 

So the fear of the Lord means we hate that which the Lord hates, desiring to walk only in His ways. We stand in awe of the holiness of God. God is love, life, and light. The Light of God represents His holiness, which includes His judgment of sin.

Let not thy heart envy sinners: but be thou in the fear of the Lord all the day long. Proverbs 23:17

Hating that which God hates should govern our thoughts, our actions, and our lives. We should hate anything that is not God's truth. The REASON we should hate sin is because the fear of God has gripped our lives. No one readily does what they hate. We will stop sinning when we hate it. The first verse in the Bible that addresses this fact occurs after Cain had killed Abel.

6 Then the Lord said to Cain, Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen?
7 If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it. 
Genesis 4:6-7 (New American Standard)

Immorality runs rampant in the world today. People in the world do not have the fear of God within them. Therefore it is now an accepted way of life for a man and a woman to live together and even have children together outside of marriage. Americans today sing "God Bless America" at many events. Can God really bless America when there is so much sin in this country?

The November, 2001, issue of Maoz Israel, published by Messianic Jews, states:

Is America aware that one of the things that gives fuel to extremist fanatical Islamic sects is the loose sexual and materialistic lifestyle of the American people as exported by movies, videos, TV, music, magazines and books? And now Internet! America has introduced the world to hi-tech sin. Many Muslim regimes do not allow Western television in their country. They explain that they do not want their people exposed to the West's degrading morality.

Unfortunately this same immorality has invaded even charismatic circles. I remember a young woman and a young man kissing and almost fondling each other during a formal house church meeting many years ago. Christians also need to be very careful of how they dress. Some young Christian woman dress very provocatively. The fear of the Lord is the answer to all problems with respect to the opposite sex.

11 Come, ye children, hearken unto me: I will teach you the fear of the Lord.
12 What man is he that desireth life, and loveth many days, that he may see good?
13 Keep thy tongue from evil, and thy lips from speaking guile.
14 Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace and pursue it.
Psalm 34:11-14

When the fear of God grips you, you will be supernaturally natural, godly, and walk in holiness.

2 So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;
3 Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;
4 If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;
5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God. Proverbs 2:2-5

The Lord promises a multitude of blessings if we walk in the fear of the Lord. The following are only a few of those blessings. There are MANY more!

(1) Salvation
Surely His salvation is nigh them that fear Him; that glory may dwell in our land. Psalm 85:9

(2) Mercy
For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is His mercy toward them who fear Him. Psalm 103:11,17

(3) Companionship of God
I am a companion of all them that fear Thee, and of them that keep Thy precepts. Psalm 119:63

(4) Prolonged days
The fear of the Lord prolongeth days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened. Proverbs 10:27

(5) Provision for all needs
O fear the Lord, ye His saints: for there is no want to them that fear Him.
Psalm 34:9

(6) Guidance
What man is he that feareth the Lord? Him shall He teach in the way that He shall choose. Psalm 25:12

(7) Protection
The angel of the Lord encampeth round about them that fear Him, and delivereth them. Psalm 34:7

(8) Revelation
The secret of the Lord is with them that fear Him; and He will shew them His covenant. Psalm 25:14

(9) Riches, honor, and life
By humility and the fear of the Lord are riches, and honour, and life.
Proverbs 22:4

(10) Blessed
Blessed is the man that feareth the Lord, that delighteth greatly in His commandments. Psalm 112:1

(11) Fulfilled desires
He will fulfill the desire of them that fear Him: He will also hear their cry, and will save them. Psalm 145:19

(12) Acceptable to God
But in every nation he that feareth Him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with Him. Acts 10:35

(13) God takes pleasure in us
The Lord taketh pleasure in them that fear Him, in those that trust in His mercy. 
Psalm 147:11

(14) Know the goodness of God
Oh how great is thy goodness, which thou hast laid up for them that fear thee. 
Psalm 31:19

(15) Taught of the Lord
What man is he that feareth the Lord? Him shall He teach in the way that He shall choose. Psalm 25:12

(16) Healing
But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in His wings. Malachi 4:2

There is a need for healing in the body of Christ. That verse gives the prerequisite for healing ... the fear of the Lord. May His Son arise upon us!

(17) Place of refuge
In the fear of the Lord is strong confidence: and his children shall have a place of refuge. Proverbs 14:25

(18) A fountain of life
The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.
Proverbs 14:26

(19) Wisdom
And unto man He said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding. Job 28:28

Let us consider Solomon, whose heart was so "right" when he first became king (although he was still involved, unknowingly, in mixture, according to 1 Kings 3:1-3). The Lord appeared unto Solomon in a dream and said, "Ask, what I shall give thee" (1 Kings 3:5). Solomon's response was:

9 Give therefore Thy servant an understanding heart to judge Thy people, that I may discern between good and bad: for who is able to judge this Thy so great a people?
10 And the speech pleased the Lord, that Solomon had asked this thing.
11 And God said unto him, Because thou hast asked this thing, and hast not asked for thyself long life; neither hast asked riches for thyself, nor hast asked the life of thine enemies; but hast asked for thyself understanding to discern judgment;
12 Behold I have done according to thy words: lo, I have given thee a wise and understanding heart; so that there was none like thee before thee, neither after thee shall any arise like unto thee.
13 And I have also given thee that which thou hast not asked, both riches, and honour: so that there shall not be any among the kings like unto thee all thy days.
14 And if thou wilt walk in My ways, to keep My statutes and My commandments, as thy father David did walk, then I will lengthen thy days. 1 Kings 3:9-14

Note that a wise and understanding heart is intimately related to the ability to discern between good and bad or to discern righteous judgment.

(20) Discernment and salvation
16 Then they that feared the Lord spake often one to another: and the Lord hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before Him for them that thought upon His name.
17 And they shall be mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth Him not.
Malachi 3:16-18

The last blessing above, concerning discernment and salvation, is one that our fellowship used to read together every Sunday night, as a group. When we walk in the fear of the Lord, when the fear of the Lord is real in our hearts, Malachi 3:16 says that the Lord hearkens and hears us. The Lord hearkens to us! Note also that they who fear the Lord speak OFTEN one to another. This is not talking about a formal meeting. This 
is talking about lifting up the Lord in our conversations within day-to-day activities.

There is a clear relationship between the fear of the Lord and discernment, as stated in Malachi 3:18. Discernment is sadly lacking in the body of Christ today. All you have to do to prove that is look around at all of the tens of thousands of charismatic believers who have been pulled into one off-center doctrine after another. Many genuine believers have been sorely wounded because of their participation in so many off-center doctrines and "movements." We spoke about that lack of discernment in our last two messages.

All of the word and all of the verses we have shared clearly indicate that we CANNOT progress in the Lord unless the fear of the Lord is real within our hearts. Lord, open our eyes, our hearts, and our understanding that we might fear You! that we might discern between the righteous and the wicked, and between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not. Lord, we stand in your presence with awe and reverence.

In our next few messages we plan to share with you on the much-needed topic of hearing the voice of the Lord for yourself.

Until then, may you continue to seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness.

Amen.




The Christian and Money

Below is but a small measure of revelation that my father had received from the Lord. I hope this will be a blessing to you. All that is written below are the words of my father.

The Christian and Money 
In loving memory of my father
Robert Louis (Bob) Padgett
July 28, 1931-May 22, 2023


Immediately after the Lord apprehended me, He emphasized two things to me ... the sovereignty of God and the proper relationship of the Christian with money. The lack of understanding of the place of money in the life of a believer is a topic that needs MUCH revelation. Even the majority of so-called mature Christian ministers do not seem to understand what God is after when it comes to money.

This topic needs to be carefully presented, with much wisdom from the Lord because it is SO easy to misunderstand. To the best of my knowledge I have spoken publicly about the topic of money only TWICE since the Lord apprehended me in 1967. However it is time to be silent NO MORE about the things of the Lord. The Lord's people have been seduced for too long away from the truth of how a Christian should look at money. In this first part of this message, we will focus on the need to understand the Scriptural relationship of the Christian and money. Unless we see a need, we will continue to follow the traditions of men.

The spirit of Balaam runs rampant, unchecked in the church world today. Balaam was a prophet who lived in Midian and who was hired by Balak, king of Moab, to curse the people of Israel (Numbers 22-24). Apparently, Balaam had made quite a reputation for himself and made a profitable living by "selling" his prophecies. Balaam had a strong self-will and went back to the Lord several times in an effort to reap a reward from Balak; but he DID have SOME kind of relationship with the Lord because he finally would speak only that which the Lord told him to speak. Balaam is called a false prophet because his focus was on self. Peter speaks of Balaam as an example of those who walk after the flesh and are self-willed.

2 Peter 2:13-16, "Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children; Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet." 

If a dumb ass speaks to you with a man's voice, that will get ANY one's attention!

Suppose I were to tell you that I have a word from the Lord for you and that I will tell you what it is if you give me $100 (or ANY amount of money). Does that sound absurd to you? I sure hope so! Now what is the difference in principle between that scenario and charging you $25 for a Christian book? or charging you $125 to attend a "great" prophetic conference, where "important prophetic revelation comes forth at this significant gatherings [sic]" (quoted from one of many such real advertisements)? Let me state VERY clearly and EMPHATICALLY ... if ANYONE charges money to hear any kind of prophetic revelation, then I am NOT interested; it is too tainted with flesh. You can NOT mix the ways of the Lord with the ways of the world! Oil and water do NOT mix! If someone wants to charge $25 for a secular book on art or politics, that is fine. However, the last time I checked, the word of God is free. A number of years ago I heard that a Christian I know had paid $147 to attend a weekend "prophetic conference." I contacted that person and said I will give you $147 if you don't go to that conference.

The heads thereof [of the houses of Jacob and Israel] judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets divine for money: yet will they lean upon the Lord, and say, Is not the Lord among us? none evil can come upon us. Micah 3:11 

That is called deception.

It seems that far too many ministers have never learned that our Father owns the cattle on a thousand hills (Psalm 50:10). So they proceed to "help God out" when it comes to their income.

About 20 years ago I heard of one minister that charged $2000 to pray for someone! And far too many ministries "sell" the word of God and have become materially rich thereby. Far too many ministries beg and plead for their audiences to give them money. Meanwhile the Lord grieves and waits for us to repent in order to bless us in ways which FAR exceed our imagination! How do I know? been there, done that. I know from the word of God and from personal experience!

I NEVER made much money in the 46 years that I worked in secular jobs. The most money I ever made in my life was $51,000 a year, before taxes and other deductions. My wife only worked temporarily for six months at about $5 per hour when we were first married. My wife was disinherited by her father because she became a Christian. Her rightful share of his estate was more than $500,000, but she did not receive one penny. I received no money from my family's estate. I had to pay for the burial of both my mother and my aunt. One year I gave 100% of my paycheck to my mother and thousands more to my aunt over a period of several years. We put four children through college without borrowing money; we hosted rather elaborate weddings for all three of our daughters; our utility bills are consistently lower than those of other Christians in our same area in the same kind of house (a number of years ago I made specific comparisons). I seriously doubt if there are many Christians who have given away a higher percentage of their income than we have. Then we have given away free almost 12,000 Christian books which we have self-published through a commercial book printer. The Lord knows that is NOT a boast! I only say these things to personally substantiate the ways and the faithfulness of the Lord. I only boast in the Lord, who He is, and what He can do. I can testify from my experience that God can manufacture more money faster than the U.S. Treasury. If the Lord calls you to a specific ministry then He must and will provide every penny that you need to fulfill that ministry, provided that your heart is right before Him. And you will never have to ask for money from others.

Psalm 37:25, "I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread."

Do you remember the very FIRST thing that Jesus did upon His entry into Jerusalem on what we now call Palm Sunday? He went into the temple of God, cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers and the seats of them that sold doves (Matthew 21:12, Mark 11:11, Luke 19:45, and John 2:15). Jesus said, "Make not my Father's house a house of merchandise." Doves were a necessary part of sacrifice under the Jewish law. So why did Jesus overthrow the seats of them that sold doves? because they were preying on the people to make money for themselves. Today, professing Christians have more merchandise for sell than Carter has little liver pills. A number of years ago I came very, very close to overthrowing the table of a professing Christian moneychanger who had his wares (books and tapes) for sale on a table.

6 He [Amaziah] hired also a hundred thousand mighty men of valour out of Israel for an hundred talents of silver.
7 But there came a man of God to him, saying, O king, let not the army of Israel go with thee; for the Lord is not with Israel, to wit, with all the children of Ephraim.
8 But if thou wilt go, do it, be strong for the battle: God shall make thee fall before the enemy: for God hath power to help, and to cast down.
9 And Amaziah said to the man of God, But what shall we do for the hundred talents which I have given to the army of Israel? And the man of God answered, The Lord is able to give thee much more than this. 2 Chronicles 25:6-9

Unfortunately, there are many believers today like Amaziah and like Ananias and Saphirra in Acts 5 who just do not understand the ways of the Lord when it comes to money.

Then there are those who have a very legalistic approach to things involving money. Many years ago, the Lord gave me a dream about a certain brother. In the dream, it was obvious that this brother had a real hang-up in things pertaining to money. I never would have believed that the brother had such a hang-up because I am essentially positive that the same brother tithed his income. But man looks on the external appearances while God looks on the heart. I believe that the Lord gave me that dream so that I could pray for that brother in a very specific way. In like manner, the following two verses are certainly both true, but it is our approach to verses like these that make a difference.

Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. 2 Corinthians 9:7

I have shewed you all things, how that so laboring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how He said, It is more blessed to give than to receive. Acts 20:35

It is NOT possible to understand the truth of God concerning money without laying a firm foundation first. It is our ATTITUDE, the state of our heart, that MUST be right before we can understand what the Lord is after with respect to money. When Jesus was tempted by the Pharisees and Herodians concerning tribute money, Jesus replied:

Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. Mark 12:17

We might add to that verse, "but don't ever mix the two." Many ministers today use the best ways of the world to try to enhance their ministry. I have seen it up close with my natural eyes many times. When Peter was asked whether Jesus paid tribute money, Jesus said:

Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee. 
Matthew 17:27

Yes, today we live in a world that still requires tribute to Caesar. Jesus commanded us to do that. Most historians believe that the earliest money pieces came into existence about 700 B.C. It seems a certainty that coined money first originated with heathen nations. Jesus said:

10 He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.
11 If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches? Mark 16:10-11

Please reflect on those verses long and hard! As a minimum, that seems to tell us that we better know how to appropriate the use of money.

It is true that today we can seldom avoid the use of money to buy and sell. However the time is approaching, quickly approaching, when we can no longer buy or sell. You don't want to even THINK about the alternative!!! It is just a question of time before the economy in the United States collapses and NO man can buy or sell without using the world-wide money system.

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Revelation 13:17

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. Revelation 19:20

Therefore it is IMPERATIVE that we understand the truth of God concerning money and that we allow the Holy Spirit to develop within us the right attitude toward money.

The big faith and prosperity teachers have seduced far too many Christians concerning money. Oh, what they preach has a small element of legalistic truth. But Christianity does NOT consist of following rules and laws. Moreover, Christianity does NOT consist of blindly following what some faith preacher interprets (wrongly) as the word of God. I am extremely weary of hearing false ministers tell listeners to "sow your seed." Back in the 1970's one man in our New Testament house church said that he had been tithing for years, but when was he going to get his money back in abundance? Obviously his heart was not right.

Years ago I heard a man that some considered to be an apostle say, "If I don't travel, the money does not come in." How sad! I also knew very well another man that many considered to be an apostle. For years he refused to ask for money. But after a number of years the offerings from other Christians started drying up. Some of his Christian friends persuaded him that it was OK to ask for money. He put in writing that he was then starting to ask for money. When I read that, I said to my wife, "That is the end of his ministry." That is exactly what happened. A few years later, after I heard him teach at a weekend convention, he literally said, "Now it is time to take up an offering for me."

In effect, when we have to beg others to give us money so "we can continue this great ministry," we are actually trusting man, not God.

One TV evangelist, based in Atlanta, a few years ago told his mega-church congregation that the Lord told him he needed a $77 million dollar jet aircraft so he could "spread the gospel faster." Of course his undiscerning congregation bought him the aircraft. Almost every TV evangelist begs for money so they can continue their great ministry. Most of them are multi-millionaires. I have yet to see any TV evangelist who has not been tainted with money. That is a major reason why I never watch TV evangelists. One megachurch in our geographical area several years ago spent more than $185 million dollars on their church structure and parking lot. Of course most of the TV evangelists and mega-church pastors rationalize their receiving millions of dollars from undiscerning Christians by affirming that the Lord is blessing them because of their great ministry. That is pure deception of the highest order.

Whatever happened to Philippians 4:6, "Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God." 

Note that verse does NOT say, let your requests be known unto men. The Holy Ghost said through Paul,

1 Timothy 6:6-11, "But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness."

The love of money actually stems from a focus on SELF. That implies that we trust self more than we trust the Lord. There was no such thing as money when Adam and Eve sinned in the Garden. Money today, however, is certainly the biggest driving force behind the desire to exalt self.

Then we have some young men (young in both age and spiritual maturity) who believe they have been called to do "the Lord's work." Therefore they quit their secular jobs and expect that "the Lord will provide." But then they solicit money from their friends and relatives. Paul had something to say about that to the churches at Thessalonica and to us:

2 Thessalonians 3:10, "For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat."

Even the great apostle Paul had a tent-making job.

As long as I am motivated by "what do I get?" or "what's in it for ME?" my heart is not right before God. Yes, it is true that if I give freely to others, then I will receive a much bigger blessing in return from the Lord. But ONLY if my attitude and motivations are correct. As long as I am self-seeking I will greatly hinder the Lord's blessings in my life.

Let us consider Abraham. Abraham certainly needed some refinement in his understanding a number of different times in his life. After defeating the four "good" kings and rescuing Lot,

1 After these things the word of the Lord came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield and thy exceeding great reward,
2 And Abram said, Lord God, what will thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus? Genesis 15:1-2

The Lord had just told Abram that the Lord Himself was Abram's great reward. The Lord plus what else is sufficient for us? Could this immature attitude have been part of the reason why Abram had to wait another 15 years for the promise of God which came in the person of Isaac?

I have showed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how He said, It is more blessed to give than to receive. Acts 20:35

Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again. Luke 6:38

Jesus said, in Luke 12:33-34, "Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Although every Christian would nod in agreement with those verses, the reality of the practice of those verses is practically non-existent.

Now, what about the Tithe? The first mention of a tithe occurs in Genesis 14:20.

And he [Abram] gave him [Melchizedek] tithes of all.

Please note that at that time there was no such thing as money as we know it today. So the tithe consisted of animals, foodstuffs, etc. The Lord told Moses:

Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. Deuteronomy 14:22

Therefore it should be no surprise when Jesus said:

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 
Matthew 23:23

That verse clearly states there is much more to a tithe than material possessions.

Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Malachi 3:8

Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. Malachi 3:10

There are those who quote the verses in Malachi 3 in an attempt to mentally and emotionally coerce believers into giving them money. This approach is commonly mixed with preaching a prosperity doctrine. Such, of course, are false teachers.

Further, I do not see any scriptural basis for passing a collection plate. In the New Testament house church that we were part of for 12 years back in the late 1960's until May 1980, the church never passed a collection plate one time. Some friends of ours said they stopped going to a big Assembly of God church near us when they passed the collection plate four times during one service.

Jesus said, in Matthew 6:1-4, "Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven. Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly." 

Some have said that the practice of tithing is never mentioned in the New Testament. That is basically correct, except for the times when Jesus addressed the Jews who were still trying to abide by the law. We believe that the tithe is part of the LAW. More importantly, the tithe does not really exist under the New Covenant because every true believer is a minister. Instead of tithing to the Levitical priesthood, our giving now is based upon need, not ministry. Two verses confirm that: Acts 2:45 and Acts 4:35.

In the days of the house church in Northern Virginia back in the late 1960's and 1970's, we had a guiding principle with respect to the corporate distribution of money from the church. We almost NEVER gave money to any minister who asked for money. We preferred to provide financial support for those whose heart was more pure.

Should a Christian tithe? Perhaps, but only as a schoolmaster to bring us to Christ ... UNTIL the day dawn, and the day star arise in our hearts. There is a place for taking heed and taking heed and taking heed. But unless you see what the Lord is REALLY after then all of our taking heed amounts to little more than walking in the Mosaic law. Whenever you KNOW that everything that we are and seem to have belongs to the Lord, then the law has no more effect. If you feel led to tithe your income, the next question becomes "Where do you give your money?" 

Have you ever heard anyone say, "You should pay tithes where you are fed"? Many churches promote that saying in order to extract more dollars from the "fold." If you are going to abide by the legalistic tithe concept, then that is a reasonable statement. What do you do, however, if you are fed by the LORD, not by man?

Many years ago, a precious brother in the Lord, who was also an accountant and prepared tax returns for many people, made the following observation. He said that he had noticed that when people had very few charitable contributions on their tax returns, they had a lot of other expenses, like medical bills, etc. He also said that when people had a lot of charitable deductions, then they had very few other expenses. In other words, he said that the tithe belonged to the Lord. Either we could voluntarily tithe or the Lord would take it some other way. Perhaps there was a lot of truth in his observations, but what about those believers who give freely to others and never claim it on their income tax return? We will go into great detail about that shortly.

So what should our approach be to the mammon of unrighteousness? It starts (and ends) with the Lord Jesus.

A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, And loving favour rather than silver and gold. The rich and the poor meet together: The Lord is the Maker of them all. Proverbs 22:1-2

23 Thus saith the Lord, let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:
24 But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth Me, that I am the Lord Which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the Lord. Jeremiah 9:23-24

To the best of our knowledge, there is no place in scripture, which explicitly refers to a "gift of giving." Yet we believe very much that there is such a gift. Every ministry and every gift was and is embodied in the Person of the Lord Jesus. Jesus certainly demonstrated a ministry of giving.

For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though He was rich, yet for your sakes He became poor, that ye through His poverty might be rich. 
2 Corinthians 8:9

We have known several brethren who seemed to have such a gift. About 25 years ago I was talking with one brother with such a gift. He said that many years ago, a verse jumped out to him about giving.

He that hath pity upon the poor lendeth unto the Lord; and that which he hath given will He pay him again. Proverbs 19:17

The brother was deeply impressed with how it could be possible to "lend unto the Lord," considering the fact that our God owns "the cattle upon a thousand hills" (Psalm 50:10). That is something worth pondering. Jesus gives an answer:

Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Matthew 25:40

1 Moreover, brethren, we do you to wit of the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia:
2 How that in great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded unto the riches of their liberality.
3 For to their power, I bear record, yea, and beyond their power they were willing of themselves;
4 Praying us with much intreaty that we would receive the gift, and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering to the saints.
5 And this they did, not as we hoped, but first gave their own selves to the Lord, and unto us by the will of God. 2 Corinthians 8:1-5

And so God does not need and does not want our money. He wants YOU and ME!

Once we give ourselves to the Lord, everything else, including the gift of giving will follow. If I am providing some service to you, I should do so as unto the Lord, with absolutely NO thought as to what, if anything, I might get from you in return. Likewise, if I am receiving some service from you, I should ask the Lord what I should give you and be obedient with joy.

For example, a Christian plumber, when doing some plumbing project for another Christian, if asked what price he/she expects for the work, should say, "I will leave that entirely between you and the Lord."

Freely ye have received, freely give. Matthew 10:8

Labor not to be rich: cease from thine own wisdom. Proverbs 23:4

Now is there anything wrong with being rich? Not if the Lord makes you rich! However, if the Lord makes you rich without you seeking riches, then the Lord has a reason. You MUST ask the Lord how He wants you to use the riches! Genesis 13 is the first place that wealth is mentioned in the Bible. Abram had riches (Genesis 13:2) but the riches did not have Abram. Moses, likewise, esteemed the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt (Hebrews 11:26). Abram's eyes were on the promises, while the things of earth grew strangely dim. Abram had flocks but the flocks did not have him. Lot also had flocks (Genesis 13:5) but the flocks possessed him. It is a terrible thing when a Christian is possessed by his possessions.

If riches are honestly obtained, held as belonging to God, and used by us as good stewards, they are right. But if they are falsely gained and/or held and used for unrighteous self, they are wrong. Lot's riches were the occasion of strife (Genesis 13:7-8). Since he represents a believer he will have to learn by losing them all. A faithful God will see that they are taken away from him, with the intent that his heart will return to the Lord.

Some time ago I heard a true story. During a meeting of Christian believers, a man stood up and gave his personal testimony. He said that at one point in his life he had very little money. But at one point he felt led to give most of his money to another needy believer. Then the Lord told him to give it all to that needy man, so he did. Then he testified how the Lord over a period of time made him into a millionaire. At that point a woman in the gathering spoke up and said, "I dare you to do it again."

The Lord knows our heart. We must make sure that our boast is always in the Lord, Who He is and what He has done and can do.

In the world, many musical "artists" have made millions of dollars through their musical gifts, from their concerts and recording albums. So it has seemed "normal" that Christians pursue the same. Many Christian vocalists have also made millions of dollars through the gift given to them by God. Is that wrong? Well we are in no position to judge anyone. However, even the world recognizes the awesome beauty of the gift and then moves to pull the gift into the world's system. In the process, the gift becomes polluted and compromised. However we do believe that in music, as in all other areas, there is a more excellent way. We have not been given gifts by God just to use them in the same manner that those in the world use their gifts with the corresponding monetary rewards! Certainly we should all seek the Lord as to how HE would have us to use the gifts that God has given to each one.

A similar area has to do with books and tapes. Many people in the world have made millions of dollars writing books. So since everybody does it, Christians have assumed that it is OK for them likewise to write Christian books and make millions of dollars in the process. This probably gets rationalized by Christian authors as a way that God has blessed them for using their understanding of scripture and their gift of writing. Again, we do NOT want to seem like we are judging Christian authors who sell their books for the normal going price. But again, we must insist that there is a higher, more excellent way! Such Christian authors need to honestly ask the Lord whether they are writing books for a mixed motive that INCLUDES personal fame and fortune. Yes, we are aware that, the Scripture saith, 

Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The laborer is worthy of his reward. 1 Timothy 5:18

But we need to be very careful here. Jesus said, "It is more blessed to give than to receive." I do not find ANY scripture that says that we should TAKE! The Scripture does NOT say that we are to extract money from our fellow believers! The attitude ... the motivation ... is CRITICAL! I should be MORE than willing to share with you that which I have received with NO thought on my part as to what I may get in return. We believe that the word of God is free!

Any ministry, in whatever form it expresses itself, whether preaching, teaching, intercession, healing, deliverance, books, tapes, music, etc., should be freely shared with no thought of "what do I get in return?"

41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.
42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.
43 And He called unto Him His disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury.
44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living. Mark 12:41-44

No serious Christian could ever doubt whether or not Jesus provided for that poor widow's material needs the rest of her life on earth.

It is very important to understand that under the New Covenant the Lord is no longer saying, "Thou shall do this and thou shall not do that." That is Judaism or legalism of the highest order. Instead, the Lord is saying, "This is where I will bring you to if you allow me to change your heart." No man is going to have his heart changed by following lots of dogmatic, legalistic rules. But if we allow the Lord to change our heart by the power of the Holy Spirit, then we will soon see that the things of this world will grow slowly but surely dim.

I will not go into what we have received from the Lord and walked in for 50 years concerning the Christian and credit cards, life insurance, a retirement program, and buying a house. But if anyone is interested I will be happy to share with you in detail about these areas. However, I do believe it is important to share what we have received concerning Religious Contributions and Tax Deductions. That is undoubtedly one of the most controversial aspects of this message on "The Christian and Money." Let us state our thesis very clearly. We see NO place for the Christian, whether individually or corporately, to itemize tax deductions for contributions to religious organizations. When Abram paid tithes to Melchizedek he did not ask for a tax receipt. Neither did Jesus and Peter when they paid tribute money. This whole issue can be resolved by a church group not adopting a "name;" for without a name you cannot get a bank account or an IRS tax-deductible number. I have been waiting and hoping for 50 years that the Federal Government would eliminate the 501C tax exemption for churches and tax all religious organizations. After all, most churches today are big businesses. Jesus said,

1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth.
Matthew 6:1-3

At tax reporting time, what does the typical Christian do? He sits down with all of his tax deductible receipts from religious organizations in the left hand and enters those as deductions on a tax form with the right hand. So the left hand knows EXACTLY what the right hand is doing! Jesus said,

Render therefore unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. Matthew 22:21

Again, we might add to that verse, "but don't ever mix them up." Oil and water do not mix. The things of the world do NOT mix with the things of the Lord! The Church today has very little power BECAUSE the Church has allowed all sorts of mixture to co-exist within its ranks. Many years ago I read an apparently true conversation between a former pope and Thomas Aquinas.

The pope, as he was counting a large sum of money, said, "See, Thomas, the church can no longer say silver and gold have I none." Aquinas answered, "Neither can we say rise up and walk."

Yes, I know the typical response. I even heard with my natural ears an elder of a New Testament church give this response. "But it is perfectly legal to take a tax deduction for contributions to religious organizations. If I take the tax deduction I will have more money to give to the Lord's work." That response is a product of logical reasoning ... a product of the carnal mind. Did you forget that our Father owns the cattle on a thousand hills? Did you forget that Jesus told Peter to go take up the first fish that comes up and you will find a piece of money in the mouth of the fish? The little bit of money that you "save" as a result of taking a tax deduction is PEANUTS compared to that which the Lord is ready to pour out upon you if you walk in His ways. How do I know? from revelation, not reason; and from personal experience. I could go into GREAT detail about that last statement but I will not do so here.

The problem, of course, is that Christian man is always trying to reason how we can DO more FOR God. But God wants to do a work WITHIN us! Lord have mercy on us!

The End of the Matter About Money

Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Isaiah 55:1

But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. Matthew 6:33

In effect, the Lord says to every Christian, "Give me all of your heart and I will take care of all of the rest."




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