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1.29.2026

Discernment

Below is but a small measure of revelation that my father had received from the Lord. I hope this will be a blessing to you. All that is written below are the words of my father.

The Need 
In loving memory of my father
Robert Louis (Bob) Padgett
July 28, 1931-May 22, 2023


Jesus warned us, in Matthew 24, that we should take heed that no man deceive us. In that same chapter, Jesus warned that there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. WE ARE LIVING IN SUCH A TIME TODAY! For those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, a great wind of deception is blowing and a mountain is erupting. Now, who are the "elect"? all those who are born again? all those who are baptized in the Holy Ghost? We think not! Many are called ("saved") but few are chosen (as disciples, to walk in His kingdom on earth right now). That truth is all over Scripture, both in the Old Testament and the New Testament. We must not interpret Scripture in light of a gospel which speaks only about being "saved" and going to heaven one day. That perspective quickly gets us into a swamp of misunderstanding. We must interpret Scripture in light of the kingdom of God. There is a big difference.

Discernment is that rather elusive gift that essentially every charismatic Christian believes that they have, but for many of us appears to be woefully lacking. That is a cause for great alarm. The charismatic community in the United States today is like "Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than six score thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand" (Jonah 4:11). Yes, God, in his grace and mercy may spare the modern-day Nineveh. Yes, the saved will one day go to heaven, but they will never know what they missed here on earth, just like the 31,700 who did not qualify to be part of Gideon's army of deliverance.

Ezekiel 44, from which undoubtedly thousands of "sermons" have been preached, contains a contrast between the Levites who are allowed by the Lord to minister to the house and the priests the Levites, the sons of Zadok. Although there is very much of prophetic significance for us in that Chapter, we will focus only on one verse.

And they [the sons of Zadok] shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean. 
Ezekiel 44:23

If we interpret that verse in strictly an historical context, then it is of little value for us today. However, we believe the word of God is timeless and independent of any culture. Therefore the above verse has specific application to the time in which we live. As an interesting side note, Zadok had only one son, but the above verse speaks of sons, plural. We will not here go into the significance of that. The question is, what does that verse mean for you and me right now?

During Ezekiel's ministry on earth, the important task of declaring God's will on matters of clean and unclean food, the fitness of sacrificial animals, and ritual purity either had been done for pay (Micah 3:11) or had been neglected altogether (Jeremiah 2:8 and Ezekiel 22:26). Under the new covenant, and therefore in our day, we have the same counterpart, except with spiritual, not natural, matters; i.e., the presentation of clean or unclean spiritual food, our personal sacrifices which the Lord requires, and purity of the heart, or holiness. The preaching of the working of the cross in our life has been sadly neglected. As in every generation, and certainly today in the charismatic community,

11 The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the Lord, and say, Is not the Lord among us? None evil can come upon us.
12 Therefore shall Zion for your sake be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of the forest. 
Micah 3:11-12

Far too many of the "leaders" of the charismatic community have become multi-millionaires by selling their wares (tapes, videos, DVDs, books, etc.). We will not belabor the point here, but we have heard with our natural ears one mature (?) minister say, "Now it is time to take up an offering for me." We have heard with our natural ears another mature (?) minister say, "If I don't travel the money does not come in." At one meeting in a church, I almost overthrew the tables of the moneychangers for two "big-name" prophets (?) who were selling their wares. If you are looking for a word from the Lord, then, 

Stop buying all of the books, tapes, CDs, DVDs, videos, etc., which are being sold by the professional teachers, preachers, "prophets", and musicians. Although they may have some truth in them, and may stimulate your soul, they hinder your growth in Christ. Stop going to all of the "prophetic" conferences which have an entrance fee and/or ask for your donations and offerings. Even the money you spend on gas alone is very costly and the trip will profit you little but will put more dollars into the hands of the "prophets." Instead, cry out to God for His grace and mercy and develop an intimate relationship with Him. Learn to recognize and obey His voice, not the voice of men. The Word of God is free! The money supply for the professionals must dry up! Come out of that professional, religious system before it is too late and the door is shut!

Do you believe that we should have the nature of Jesus? How much money did Jesus charge for someone to hear Him teach or preach or to heal or deliver someone? Neither do I recall any Scripture when an offering was taken up for Jesus or when He asked for money. Consider the following verse.

And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her [Babylon]; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more. Revelation 18:11

The "prophetic" conferences aren't. They are not prophetical; they are "profitical." They are very profitable for the speakers. What a tragedy for the prophetic ministries! We must clean up and move on. We must not pretend we are clean when in fact we are dirty. The call of the hour for those who call themselves prophetic is "holiness unto the Lord". The Elijah List isn't. It is the pride of man to call something an Elijah List. The charismatic community today, as in every generation, is enamored with thrills, chills, and anything that smacks of the supernatural, no matter what the source. It was the same when Jesus walked the earth, as recorded in John 6. The tele-evangelists aren't. The Lord took me into the inner sanctum of one of the most prominent tele-evangelists many years ago. He invited me to a small, private meeting in his very large office. As I flew back home, I wrote him a very long letter, telling him why I could not work for him, regardless of the amount of money involved. One day, we will give an account for the money we gave to all of those places in the form of "offerings," not to mention the hundreds of millions of dollars poured into the pockets of the many tele-evangelists.

In the gospel according to John, we need to pay close attention to the orderly priority of the Chapters. John, Chapter 1, begins with the focus on the living Word of God, the Lord Jesus Christ. It establishes the centrality and supremacy of the Lord Jesus. Next comes the messenger from God named John the Baptist, who is sent to announce and proclaim Jesus. That is followed by John's witness to himself and others that he was not the one Israel was looking for. John pointed only to Jesus. The last of Chapter 1 contains the calling by Jesus of His initial disciples.

Chapter 2, verses 1-11, speak of the first miracle manifested by Jesus, turning the water into wine. That speaks of being born again. But notice very carefully Chapter 2, verses 12-17, which speak of Jesus initially cleansing the temple, when He overthrew the tables of the moneychangers. The significance of those verses is that the first aspect of sanctification of a believer (cleansing of the temple), after being born again, is to make sure we have the proper attitude toward money or materialism. Unless we have the proper understanding of the mammon of unrighteousness, there is no need to try to proceed any further on the road to the kingdom of God. "The love of money is the root of all evil" 
(1 Timothy 6:10).

The event in John 2:12-17, when Jesus cleansed the temple, occurred toward the beginning of Jesus' ministry on earth and is not the same as the similar event described below, which occurred toward the end of Jesus' ministry.

11 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
12 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves. Matthew 21:11-12

Doves were required under Jewish law as sacrifices in some cases. But they were NOT to be sold within the temple. Note that Jesus not only overthrew the tables of the moneychangers. He also cast out ALL them that sold AND bought in the temple. Jesus said that the buyers and sellers were equally guilty! Today is no different than the time of Balaam or Amos or Jesus, except the doves have been replaced by books, tapes, CDs, DVDs, videos, and "prophetic conferences," designed to speak smooth, polished words to those who have no understanding or discernment, and to extract money from unsuspecting sheep! How have the buyers become thieves? By using the Lord's money unwisely!

Charismatic, Spirit-filled Christians have contributed to the perpetuation of current big-name prophets/preachers by buying their wares, going to the "conferences," and putting money in the offering plates. Many years ago, while I was at work, two men from a false religion knocked at our door. My wife, Linda, told them, "No thank you." They persisted and asked for just one penny. Linda told them goodbye. The Lord quickened to Linda that when we contribute one penny to a false cause, we become linked with them. Do you want to be linked to a deceptive religion? We have personally witnessed real men of God start down that slippery slope of embracing money with the wrong perspective. We have also seen the end result of those ministers many years later.

Consider the following verses.

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree can not bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father Which is in heaven.
22 Many will say unto Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:15-23

Verses 15-20 speak about fruit as the measure of a true prophet. Fruit, of course, is the fruit of the Spirit! Galatians 5:22-23 lists the fruit of the Spirit. Fruit of the Spirit comes naturally by abiding in the vine or abiding in the tree of life. Fruit of the Spirit does not come from abiding in the tree of knowledge of good and evil. That tree produces works of the flesh.

Now consider Verses 21-23, above. Those Verses are a continuation of Verses 15-20. Jesus is not starting a new topic. There is a contrast between Verses 15-20 and Verses 21-23. Please note that Verses 21-23 do not speak about fruit but about works ... doing rather than being. Those Verses do not speak about unregenerated, unsaved sinners! They speak of those who are saved and baptized in the Holy Ghost but who are doing works of the flesh ... prophesying, casting out devils, and doing many wonderful works. How can that be, you may ask? In the same manner as the Lord allows the modern-day Levites to minister to His house (Ezekiel 44:10-14) even though they have committed abominations, fell into iniquity, and caused the house of Israel to fall into iniquity. Note the iniquity of the leaders' in Ezekiel 44 is the same iniquity that Jesus spoke about in Matthew 7:23, above. In Verse 23, when Jesus will say to them, "I never knew you," He means He never approved you, or He never got to know you. That was because those workers of iniquity (and those today) were abiding in the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The Verses in Matthew 7, above, have nothing to do with being "saved" and going to "heaven" one day. They speak of qualifying for the kingdom of God. There is a difference!

Moreover, consider John the Baptist. Scripture never records that John healed anyone, delivered anyone, or performed any miracle. Yet Jesus said that there had not arisen a greater prophet than John the Baptist. All John the Baptist did was to preach, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand" and to point to Jesus. Compare John's "works" and his message to that of the "prophetic movement" of today.

The Solution

How do we avoid being deceived? How do we gain a measure of discernment so that we can know the difference between the holy and the profane and discern between the unclean and the clean? How may our vision be elevated and our understanding of the ways of the Lord be increased so as to keep our garments clean in these trying times? We suggest some basic steps toward discerning the difference between the unclean and the clean. "Discernment" is not automatic; it is a gift from God.

First and foremost, Where is my (our) heart? Man looks on the outward appearance but God looks on our heart. Is my (our) purpose to glorify God or is it to get all of God's goodies for me? Do we groan in the Spirit and weep between the porch and the altar that the people of God might mature in Christ? Do we long for the will of God to be done? Are we abiding in the Vine? We have to get away from the "me-centered" perspective of Christianity. Christianity is never about me! It is about Him! We must try to see everything from God's perspective. Where is the preaching of the cross and the working of the cross in our life?

I read a short quotation recently from an old saint which said, "It is more important for God to be glorified than for me to be saved." Do you agree or not? Many long years ago, in a small gathering of believers in our living room, a woman said that she needed to confess something to the whole group. Immediately, the Holy Spirit brought John 8 to my mind. Sure enough, the woman said that she had committed adultery with her next door neighbor. She said, "Even though I have committed the unpardonable sin and I am cut off from the Lord for eternity, I am still going to serve Him on this earth." That is what I call commitment! Of course we quickly told the woman that she had not committed the unpardonable sin. She still serves the Lord to this day.

Second, do we see the need for greater discernment? My saintly grandmother once wrote in her Bible, "Lord let me create hunger in their heart; for unless they hunger they cannot be fed." If we are not hungry we will not eat. That is true both naturally and spiritually. Since almost every charismatic Christian believes they already have discernment, they see no need to cry out to God for that elusive gift. That is called deception.

Third, we must cry out to God that He enable us. The cry on our heart must be, "Lord, have mercy on me. Do not let me be deceived." That is part of what is meant by the Scriptural fear of God. There are those who "pooh-pooh" the word "fear" and say that "Perfect love casts out all fear." Those who fall back on that verse have missed the rest of the Bible. Neither do they interpret that verse correctly. It is true that IF we abide in the vine (walk in the kingdom) there is no fear of anything outside of the Kingdom. The fear of God is all over the Bible, both in the Old Testament and the New Testament. Jesus Himself taught us that we should fear God (Luke 12:5).

Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into His rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. Hebrews 4:1

There is a very close relationship between the proper fear of God and discernment.

16 Then they that feared the Lord spake often one to another: and the Lord hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before Him for them that feared the Lord, and that thought upon His name.
17 And they shall be Mine, saith the Lord of hosts in that day when I make up My jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth Him not. Malachi 3:16-18

Again, those verses do not speak of those who are "saved" as compared to those who are not "saved." The distinction is between believers and those who walk in the kingdom of God.

Fourth, we must have a thorough understanding of the meaning of Scripture, as revealed by the Holy Spirit. Doctrinally, almost every Christian denomination, as well as charismatic groups, at every level will say they believe that all of the Bible is true. The problem is with out faulty interpretation of Scripture, usually based on the "me-centered" approach. Devour the Word. Gather your manna every day for you and your family. Ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to you the deeper, personal levels of meaning.

Fifth, we must exercise our faith and practice, practice, practice.

But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Hebrews 5:14

Note that the Verse says to "discern both good and evil." It does not say to discern between good and evil; neither can it be translated that way. The sense of the Verse is that we need to be able to discern the difference between the works of the flesh and those pertaining to the kingdom of God. To do that, our spiritual senses need to be exercised.

In addition to the above five general requirements to have a measure of discernment, we suggest a few practical guidelines which may help us to discern both good and evil. These guidelines also have a solid, Scriptural foundation.

First, when we see a lot of Christians all going in the same direction, look at it carefully again. It is probably tainted with flesh. Jesus never worked with a multitude. Read John, Chapter 6, and look at all those who were following Jesus for the wrong reasons. Gideon's army had to be pared down to less than 1% of the original (people of God) for the real work of God to be done. Many are called but few are 
chosen. (That is not talking about being saved and going to heaven one day.) Why are few chosen? because few choose. Few choose the way of the cross. The sons of Issachar, men of understanding who knew what Israel ought to do, were very few in number.

Second, whenever any "leader" begins to acquire a "name" or becomes very popular, look at it very carefully again also. Jesus made himself of no reputation. Jesus said, "Woe unto you when all men speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets" (Luke 6:26). Jesus also said, "Woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation" (Luke 6:24). There are many professional prophets and teachers today who have become multi-millionaires by selling their wares.

Third, the "localized" presence of God is totally non-scriptural. No one needs to go to Lakeland, Florida, or Toronto, or Pensacola, or a "prophetic conference" or anywhere else to receive healing, deliverance, etc., from the Lord. Jesus taught us that truth in numerous places, like John, Chapter 4. Furthermore, to go to a "school of the prophets" or to a teaching to learn how to be a prophet is utterly ridiculous! No man can teach another man to be a prophet. God sets the members, every one of them, in the body as it pleases Him.

And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, He is there; believe him not. Mark 13:21

Fourth, a big clue concerns money. Back in the glory days of our house church in the late 60's and 70's and into the early 80's, we had a principle (not a law) that our church would not give money to those who asked for it. Further, we never passed a collection plate. Any time you have to pay an entrance fee to attend some big "prophetic conference" (or any kind of conference) or even when they pass the offering plate, avoid it like the plague. We believe that the word of God is free but the word of man costs money. A number of years ago, some friends of ours told us they stopped going to an Assembly of God church near us when they passed the collection plate four times in one "service." Far too many Christian leaders coerce the flock to contribute lots of money to "their" ministry.

Fifth, every prophet in the Old Testament was a "loner." True prophets today definitely tend to be the same. They march to a different drummer. They are never popular with men. That is because they have been shaped by God to be tuned vertically, to the voice of the Lord, and not horizontally to man, as are pastoral ministries. They do not feed off of each other. They get their message directly from the Lord. That means there is no such thing as a "prophetic network." Neither is there a Scriptural basis for a "prophetic" conference. I went to a few meetings at a charismatic church a year or so ago. The pastor had brought in two "big name" prophets. They were very polished speakers and kept the audience laughing, but they had nothing to say. They were good entertainers. One woman told me that she liked prophet "so-and-so" because "He keeps me laughing." May God have mercy on us!

In Summary

The simplicity of the true gospel is that we are called to glorify God and to please him, to do His will, to walk in His light and truth, to walk with God as did Enoch, to fear Him, to love Him, and in all things to thank and praise His holy name, for without Him we can do nothing. That is all possible by the power of the Holy Spirit which dwells in you. When we set our will to line up with His will, then we will discern between the unclean and the clean. The choice is ours. Many are called, but few choose.

 

1.27.2026

Discerning Things That Differ

Below is but a small measure of revelation that my father had received from the Lord. I hope this will be a blessing to you. All that is written below are the words of my father.

Discerning Things That Differ 
In loving memory of my father
Robert Louis (Bob) Padgett
July 28, 1931-May 22, 2023


In several of our previous messages we have mentioned very briefly the great need for Christian believers at all levels to be able to discern between soul and spirit. From my experience, the gift of discernment is one of the two greatest needs in the Church today. The other great need is to walk in the scriptural fear of God. We will share more about the fear of God in a later message. Both are totally impossible for the natural man. But nothing is impossible with God.

Before we continue, I have a question for you. How many times in your Christian walk have you heard a message about discernment or a message about the scriptural fear of God?

In 2002 I self-published through a commercial book printer a book titled "Discerning Things That Differ." That book is now out of print but I can email the text to anyone. 
(That book is also included in this blog)

And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;
That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offense till the day of Christ. Philippians 1:9-10

Perhaps a better translation of the above is:

And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all discernment;
That ye may discern things that differ; that ye may be sincere and without offense till the day of Christ.

These next few messages are entirely about discerning things that differ, or more specifically the LACK of discernment within the Church. Although the word, "discernment," does not literally appear in the Bible, the words "discern" and "discerning" certainly do.

Note: There is another aspect of discernment which is called discerning of spirits, which is one of the spiritual gifts mentioned in 1 Corinthians 12:8-10. If you are interested in discerning of spirits for use in deliverance ministry, we suggest a book by Ken Bennett called "In A Pig's Eye," which we can easily arrange to send to you, free of charge.

On one of the many times that the Pharisees and Sadducees came to Jesus to tempt Him, Jesus said:

2 He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red.
3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather today: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times? Matthew 16:2-3 

54 And He said also to the people, When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is.
55 And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass.
56 Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time? Luke 12:54-56

We STRONGLY believe that one of the greatest needs at all levels within the body of Christ in our lifetime has been a lack of discernment on the part of Christians. Almost every charismatic Christian believes that he/she has discernment. The past does NOT bear that out as being true. The future will reveal some startling awakenings for many Christian "leaders" (in the eyes of Christian men).

One specific example of lack of discernment within the church ... Around 1974 one of my Aunts, who was born again and baptized with the Holy Spirit, called me on the telephone. She was all excited. She had been watching the PTL Club on TV and heard that Jim Bakker wanted to hire someone to help in their computer software division. She knew that I had been working in the computer field for a number of years so she strongly encouraged me to apply to work at PTL, just outside Charlotte, NC. She told me, "Wouldn't it be wonderful to work all day with other Christians?" Well, I never had any witness of the Spirit to move in that direction but I did not want to close a possible door prematurely. So I flew to Charlotte and was picked up and taken to PTL headquarters. They gave me the grand tour at their plush site and showed me the insides of how they operate. Among other things they told me that they received about 12 million dollars each month in donations from Christians. Then Jim Bakker asked me to sit in his huge office to listen to a proposal from some IBM folks. Presumably he wanted my advice about what IBM proposed. After that, someone took me back to the airport and I flew back home. As soon as I boarded the plane I wrote four pages on legal-size paper, as fast as I could write and mailed that letter to Jim Bakker when I got back home. The essence of what I wrote was that I could not work for him if he paid me $100,000 a year. Now $100,000 a year in 1974 was pretty good money. And I explained in quite some detail why I could not work for him. What I discerned was that PTL was primarily just a money-making scheme. A few years later Jim Bakker went to prison because of financial mismanagement. I really felt sorry for the tens of thousands of professing Christians, like my Aunt, who had given them so many millions of dollars for so many years.

But that same type of money-making fraud still goes on with many so-called TV evangelists today. And unsuspecting, shall I dare say ignorant, believers still contribute millions of dollars to the emotional and intellectual pleas of TV evangelists. Most of them are multi-millionaires.

Spiritual discernment is a gift from God which needs to be exercised. Discernment belongs to those who are mature.

But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Hebrews 5:14

As we stated in a previous message, the word "both" cannot be translated as between. We must be able to discern the difference between what is good as contrasted with the will of God. Let us look at some prophecy of scripture in 1 Chronicles 12. Verses 23-37 lists the number of men from each of the tribes of Israel who came to David to help him while he was being hunted by Saul. If I did the arithmetic correctly, a total of 347,122 such men came to help David. This number included only 200 from the tribe of Issachar. Twenty-two out of 347,122 represents less than 0.01% of the total.

And of the children of Issachar, which were men that had understanding of the times, to know what Israel ought to do; the heads of them were two hundred; and all their brethren were at their commandment. 1 Chronicles 12:32

We believe that, as it was in the time of David, so is it today in the Church. We believe that 1 Chronicles 12 is not only an historical fact, but is also prophetic of the state of the Church today. That is because human nature has never changed. If that be true, then LESS than 1% of Christians today have understanding of the times, to know what the Church (spiritual Israel) ought to do. Even more shocking is that only 22 of the captains of Zadok came to help David (1 Chronicles 12:28). We will have MUCH more to say about the sons of Zadok in our next message.

Hebrews 4:12, "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." 

We see in Hebrews 4:12 the ONLY One who can divide between soul and spirit and the ONLY One who can discern the thoughts and intents of the heart ... the word of God. But He can impart that gift to whom He pleases.

In our previous message we shared from Romans 12:1-3. Romans 12:1 says that we are to present our bodies a living sacrifice, which is our reasonable service or ministry to the Lord. Romans 12:2 says that we must be transformed by the renewing our mind in order that we might discern the perfect will of God. Our mind, or intellect, is part of our soul, along with our will and our emotions. The Word of God, of course, is designed to strengthen our body and to enlighten our soul. But we also have a spirit. And God communicates with us first of all in our spirit.

There are three types of men. There is the man of the flesh ... the man who is ruled by the lusts of the flesh and the lust of the eyes. He is carnal, looking to satisfy his natural, physical needs. Some men concentrate on being a body builder. And some silly women swoon over a man's muscular-looking body. However, Paul told Timothy,

1 Timothy 4:7-8, "But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness. For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come." 

Note that Paul did NOT say, don't waste your time with bodily exercise. Actually, I believe Verse 8 means bodily exercise profits for a little time. That means we have to continue in bodily exercise almost daily for it to have a lasting effect. What Paul is saying is that our primary focus must be on exercising ourself unto godliness.

Then we have the soulish man, who could very easily be a Christian. He could be ruled by his own will, whatever seems right in his own mind. A Christian also could be ruled by his mind or intellect. Like the Athenians, he can spend his church time in nothing else but to tell or to hear some new thing. For the past 50+ years the Lord has chosen to give to me much fresh revelation concerning the written word of God. And in various ways I have tried to pass on that which the Lord has quickened to me, hoping that would be of value to other believers. But the Christian with an Athenian mind-set may go to church gatherings, hear some marvelous revelation, and go away thinking, "Boy, wasn't that a great meeting! We learned so much from that fresh revelation." But it remains simply that, something to enlighten the mind but neither challenges us nor changes us. Further, God is not in our minds.

1 Corinthians 2:14, "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."

Now, concerning our emotions. God is not in our emotions either. About one year ago I started listening to some "good" Christian music on the internet. Some of the Christian music not only has stirring melody but even scriptural truth in the words that are sung. Two of the 8 or 10 songs that I like are "Oh the Glory of Your Presence" by Alvin Slaughter and "I Sing Praises to Your Name" by Terry Macalmon at a Benny Hinn crusade in Shreveport, Louisiana, in 2001. That latter recording (I Sing Praises to Your Name) was made before 15,000 people, including a choir of 100 and a full orchestra of about 40. I assume the great majority of those present were professing Christians. During the 8+ minutes of those 15,000 people singing that song, a camera took a lot of pictures of many of the people there as they were singing, most with arms and hands raised, swaying back and forth, and expressions on their faces that seemed to be genuine. It indeed was a very stirring performance emotionally. And I am sure that many who attended went home and said, "Boy, wasn't that a wonderful meeting with all of that stirring music." But what the Holy Spirit very clearly quickened to me was that if all or even most of those 15,000 Christians were walking in the Kingdom of God, then many of our natural disasters might not have happened. That was not worship! Praise? Yes. But we don't need music to get into the spirit. We must worship the Lord in spirit and in truth, not with our mind or emotions. Three verses, 1st Chronicles 16:29, Psalm 29:2, and Psalm 96:9, tell us to worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness. Holiness is not an aspect of our emotions.

The soul has tremendous power. It is called psychic power. Around 1974 I went with a brother in our New Testament house church to a weekend conference in Ohio. While there, at one point the visiting minister, who was the head of about 100 churches across America, prophesied over me. He had never seen me in his life and I had never seen him in my life. Now I have never asked for personal prophecy in my life. But everything that man spoke to me was 100% truth. Then he spoke a number of things about my wife, whom he likewise had never seen and was not even there, and everything he said about her was 100% true. That was impressive. When something like that happens to you, you tend to think, "This must be God." Well, no, it does NOT have to be God. The Lord made it very clear later that was just powerful psychic power, from devils. A few years later the Lord smote that man and many of their 100 churches disintegrated.

All Christians, including you and me, can be deceived by our intellect or our emotions. Neither can we give life through our intellect or our emotions.

1 Corinthians 11:29-30, "For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep."

The Lord's body is not, never has been, and never will be a piece of bread or wafer, usually accompanied by a sip of wine or grape juice. The Lord's body is the body of Christ. It is the church that the Lord, not Christian man, is building. It is in the realm of the spirit. If we cannot discern between the Church that the Lord is building and the church that man is building, then many are weak and sickly among us, and many sleep or die.

Today, the voice of true prophets is largely ignored by charismatic Christians. Christians today seem to be saying,

Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits. Jeremiah 30:10

I have experienced several situations in several different churches where pastors do not want true prophets around.

Now let us consider Jonah and the people of Nineveh. Nineveh is first mentioned in Genesis 10:11. Nineveh was the capital of the ancient Assyrian Empire and the largest city in the world for at least 50 years. Some historians placed the population at 600,000 or more.

Jonah 1:1, "Now the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the son of Amittai, saying, Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me."

Jonah 3:1-10,
1 And the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the second time, saying,
2 Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee.
3 So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey.
4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
6 For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

I know of no reason to suspect that the people of Nineveh represent Christians; but when Jonah, who came from hundreds of miles away and preached "yet forty days and Nineveh shall be overthrown," they repented. I have a very difficult time believing that result could be repeated in our modern-day churches.

Jonah 4:10-11,
10 Then said the LORD, Thou hast had pity on the gourd, for the which thou hast not laboured, neither madest it grow; which came up in a night, and perished in a night:
11 And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?

120,000 adults who could not discern between their left hand and their right hand. In other words, absolutely no discernment.

We trust that your spirit has been stirred up today to see the need to be able to discern things that differ. If so, then ask the Lord to increase the measure of His discernment within you.

In our next message we will continue sharing about discerning things that differ. Until then, may the Lord be gracious unto you; may He make His face to shine upon you, and give you His peace. Amen




1.25.2026

Discerning Things That Differ (Part 2)

Below is but a small measure of revelation that my father had received from the Lord. I hope this will be a blessing to you. All that is written below are the words of my father.

Discerning Things That Differ (Part 2) 
In loving memory of my father
Robert Louis (Bob) Padgett
July 28, 1931-May 22, 2023


In our previous message we introduced the topic of discerning things that differ, a verse that comes from Philippians 1:9-10.

Perhaps the greatest lack in the Christian world today is lack of discernment. A very good question is, "Why?" We hope to answer that question later in this message.

The starting text for this message is in Ezekiel 44, which describes two types of priests. Please keep in mind that these verses have a CURRENT and FUTURE prophetic fulfillment as well as a past historical fulfillment.

Ezekiel 44:10-14
10 And the Levites that are gone away far from me, when Israel went astray, which went astray away from me after their idols; they shall even bear their iniquity.
11 Yet they shall be ministers in my sanctuary, having charge at the gates of the house, and ministering to the house: they shall slay the burnt offering and the sacrifice for the people, and they shall stand before them to minister unto them.
12 Because they ministered unto them before their idols, and caused the house of Israel to fall into iniquity; therefore have I lifted up mine hand against them, saith the Lord GOD, and they shall bear their iniquity.
13 And they shall not come near unto me, to do the office of a priest unto me, nor to come near to any of my holy things, in the most holy place: but they shall bear their shame, and their abominations which they have committed.
14 But I will make them keepers of the charge of the house, for all the service thereof, and for all that shall be done therein.

The scripture says that they have committed abominations. However, the Lord says that He will still use them to minister to the house. What grace and mercy!!!

Christianity today has MANY such priests, who have ministered unto the people before their idols and caused the house of Israel to fall into iniquity. Now some may ask, "What are the idols of which you speak?"

Exodus 20:3-4, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:"

First of all, I do not refer to graven images or statues, which are seen in almost every other religion, including the Roman Catholic Church. That is covered by the second commandment in Exodus 20:4. But the first of the 10 commandments is Exodus 20:3, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

The New Covenant equivalent of Exodus 20:3 is 

Luke 14:26, where Jesus said, "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." 

Idolatry is putting anything in priority above the Person of the Lord Himself. That includes entertainment, family, self in any form, traditions of men, and even man's attempt to build the Church. The Columbia Encyclopedia defines idolatry as any attempt to reduce that which is spiritual to the natural realm. Note from Luke 14:26, someone can be born again but miss the kingdom of God. How? By putting another god, another priority, above the Person of the Lord Himself.

The second type of priests, the sons of Zadok, are discussed in Ezekiel 44:15-31.

15 But the priests the Levites, the sons of Zadok, that kept the charge of My sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from Me, they shall come near to Me to minister unto Me, and they shall stand before Me, to offer unto Me the fat and the blood, saith the Lord God.
16 They shall enter into My sanctuary, and they shall come near to My table, to minister unto Me, and they shall keep My charge.
Ezekiel 44:15-16
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And they shall teach My people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.
Ezekiel 44:23
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And it shall be unto them for an inheritance: I am their inheritance: and ye shall give them no possession in Israel: I am their possession.
Ezekiel 44:28

In verse 28, the Lord says that He is the inheritance and the possession of the priests, the sons of Zadok. This is PRECISELY what the Lord had told Abram: "I am thy shield and thy exceeding great reward" (Genesis 15:1). All of God's people today need the discernment that Abraham had.

Let us first go back and look at the natural priest, Zadok, whose name means "righteous." Zadok, the son of Ahitub, was one of two priests who helped David (2 Samuel 8:17). Zadok also helped bring the ark to Jerusalem (1 Chronicles 15:11-13) and supported David against Absalom (2 Samuel 15:24-36). Zadok was also a prophet (2 Samuel 15:27).

Zadok had one son ... Ahimaaz. The name "Ahimaaz" means "brother of anger" or "brother of closed eyes." Ahimaaz was one of two young men appointed by David to bring him news of Absalom after Absalom had usurped the kingdom from David. David said to Hushai:

Behold, they [Zadok and Abiathar] have there with them their two sons, Ahimaaz Zadok's son, and Jonathan Abiathar's son; and by them ye shall send unto me every thing that ye can hear. 2 Samuel 15:36

After Joab killed Absalom (2 Samuel 18:14), Joab told Cushi to go tell David what he had seen (the death of Absalom). Cushi had NOT been one of the two young men appointed by David to be a messenger. After Joab had thrust three darts through the heart of Absalom, Ahimaaz asked Joab THREE times to let him run also to bear tidings to king David. After all, Ahimaaz must have thought, that is my calling and function.

19 Then said Ahimaaz the son of Zadok, Let me now run, and bear the king tidings, how that the Lord hath avenged him of his enemies.
20 And Joab said unto him, Thou shalt not bear tidings this day, but thou shalt bear tidings another day: but this day thou shalt bear no tidings, because the king's son is dead.
21 Then said Joab to Cushi, Go tell the king what thou hast seen. And Cushi bowed himself unto Joab, and ran. 
22 Then said Ahimaaz the son of Zadok yet again to Joab, But howsoever, let me I pray thee, also run after Cushi. And Joab said, Wherefore wilt thou run, my son, seeing that thou hast no tidings ready?
23 But howsoever, said he, let me run. And he said unto him, Run. Then Ahimaaz ran by the way of the plain, and overran Cushi.
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27 And the watchman said, Me thinketh the running of the foremost is like the running of Ahimaaz the son of Zadok. And the king said, He is a good man, and cometh with good tidings.
28 And Ahimaaz called, and said unto the king, All is well.
2 Samuel 18:19-23, 27-28

Ahimaaz had not seen anything ... he had not experienced anything. Ahimaaz was in a hurry to run even though he was not prepared; he ran before the Lord's timing in his life. Note also that Joab twice told Ahimaaz that he was not to run, but Ahimaaz insisted a third time; so Joab finally said, "All right, go ahead and run!" The Lord will let us have our way if we insist long enough. He had nothing to say, except, "All is well." But all was NOT well! Likewise, things in the Church today are certainly NOT well.

Note that Cushi, who was appointed by Joab to run (verse 21) and tell David what he had seen, first bowed himself to Joab. In so doing, Cushi showed both humility and respect for authority. Ahimaaz showed no such respect; he just ran. There are MANY so-called prophets today who have no respect for authority and have little humility. Please note that having respect for authority does NOT necessarily mean that you are a "card-carrying member" of some named Christian church. You can have your name on the roll and still be quite rebellious.

Note also that Ahimaaz overran Cushi; Ahimaaz brought his tidings to the king first. There is much scriptural evidence that the false emerges before the true ... Cain before Abel, Ishmael before Isaac, the first Adam before the last Adam. Christians have been far too eager to accept that which comes first to tickle their ears. There is a great object lesson with Ahimaaz. Even though Ahimaaz had a calling and a function, he had SEEN nothing. So it was not yet his time to run. A precious brother in the Lord and a personal friend of ours went to be with the Lord a number years ago. He was two weeks short of being 102 years old. His real ministry did not begin until he was 70 years old. The ministry of Moses did not begin until he was 80 years old. We must minister out of what we have seen and heard. That was the message of the Apostle John.

That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
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That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ. 
1 John 1:1, 3

There is another truth to be gleaned from Ahimaaz. From scripture, Zadok had only ONE son ... Ahimaaz; but Ezekiel 44:15 speaks of the sons (plural) of Zadok. Verse 23 of Ezekiel 44 says THEY (plural) shall teach my people the difference between the holy and the profane and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean. In 574 B.C., during the time of Ezekiel, there was ONE son; in these last days, the Lord is raising up a COMPANY of sons to fulfill that prophecy. It is the same with Elijah, who is yet to come. We make no distinction between the Elijah company and the sons of Zadok.

Obadiah 1:21, "And saviours [or deliverers] shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD'S."

The important point is NOT who is going to be a part of the company of deliverers (Obadiah 21) that the Lord is raising up. The ONLY thing that matters is that the will of the Lord be done ... that He might be glorified.

Let us return to the key verse.

And they shall teach My people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean. Ezekiel 44:23

The verse in Ezekiel 44:23 has NOT yet been fulfilled, except for a very brief time right after the Day of Pentecost. To confirm that statement all you have to do is look at the tens of thousands of Christians who have been pulled into one off-tangent "movement" after another. We have described in numerous places and in several different books, the off-tangent "movements" of submission, discipleship, faith and prosperity, "apostles and prophets," mega-churches, the ecumenical "movement" and on and on.

Jesus said,

I am come in My Father's name and ye receive Me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. John 5:43

Charismatic Christians have flocked by the tens of thousands to hear the false apostles and prophets. In some cases charismatics even pay $125 (or $175 after the pre-registration date) to hear these false apostles and prophets. Of course they get a good "deal" of only $75 extra for their spouse! How tragic! The spirit of Balaam once more runs rampant in charismatic circles. The spirit of Balaam is ministering for money or material possessions. About 40-some years ago I heard a man, whom many called an apostle, literally say, "If I don't travel, the money doesn't come in." How tragic!

The same believers who flock after the false apostles and prophets run the other way when a true prophet appears. In the Old Testament, the people hated to see the true prophets coming, because they knew it signaled a threat to their carnal way of life. Darkness never likes light. Many years ago a true prophet of the Lord came to our area a number of times. We were the only people who would house him, but we did so with great pleasure! I remember dozens of nuggets of gold that he shared, informally, with my wife and me in our living room. I will never forget all of the truth that he shared. So my wife and I were greatly blessed and received a prophet's reward; the other believers received little.

In the BEST of charismatic circles, we have done a fairly good job in teaching the difference between the holy and the profane. Clearly, based on the fruit in evidence, we have NOT caused the Lord's people to discern between the unclean and the clean. The fruit, as stated above, are the tens of thousands of Christians who have been tossed to and fro from one off-tangent "movement" to another. NEVERTHELESS, this verse MUST be fulfilled ... with or without you and with or without me. Fulfillment of Ezekiel 44:23 requires five separate, but related, works of the Spirit.

(1) Christians need to see the NEED for discernment. Unfortunately, the masses who are caught up in so many off-center movements and tangents do not know what they are in. They have grown up in an environment which embraces many traditions of man and assume everything is ok because "everybody is doing it."

(2) Christians need to earnestly pray that the Lord will raise up the priests, the sons of Zadok. Jesus taught His disciples to pray, "Thy will be done." Ezekiel 44:23 contains a part of His will. It can NEVER be wrong to pray that the will of the Lord be done!

(3) The sons of Zadok, themselves, must be raised up. The Lord is not asleep! He has 7,000 more that we do not know about. He has been preparing His chosen vessels in the wilderness and will soon unveil them.

(4) The sons of Zadok, themselves, must have discernment. You can pass on to others ONLY that which you have received. From my limited observation, some ministers who THINK they have discernment are going to be surprised one day.

(5) There must be an openness on the part of the Lord's people to HEAR and RECEIVE from the sons of Zadok. From my limited observation, that openness does not currently exist, except to a limited degree. For FAR too long, the Church has been listening to whatever soothes the soul and emotions ... don't rock the boat ... keep everybody happy ... have some nice programs for everyone ... keep the money coming in. As it was in the Old Testament with apostate Israel, so it is today. Sugar-coating the word has accomplished very little. Is it time for the Word of Truth to be spoken? And who wants to hear the Word of Truth? Perhaps more to the point, who is capable of hearing the Word of Truth? Moreover, who is capable of speaking the word of truth?

A major prerequisite for discernment is given by Malachi, during a time of great apostasy of the nation of Israel.

16 Then they that feared the Lord spake often one to another and the Lord hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before Him for them that feared the Lord, and that thought upon His name.
17 And they shall be Mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in that day when I make up My jewels [or special treasure]; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth Him not.
Malachi 3:16-18

Note from those verses in Malachi the relationship of the scriptural fear of the Lord and the ability to discern between the righteous and the wicked. Verse 16 speaks of two prerequisites of returning: fearing the Lord and speaking often one to another (or thinking upon His name). We will share more about the scriptural fear of the Lord in our next message.

In verse 17 the Lord says that He will spare those who have met those two prerequisites and that they shall be part of His special treasure [the remnant, the Elijah company, etc.]. Verse 18 says, "Then shall ye return." Return from where? Return from the spiritual bondage and captivity that we have gradually slipped into and don't know it. In the time of Moses there was one captor of God's people ... Egypt. God's people were in great bondage to Egypt for 400 years before they finally cried out to God. Then God sent a deliverer, a man named Moses.

In the past, a few believers have asked me, "What is the Lord saying today?" I do not remember what I said then. But if anyone were to ask me that question today, my answer is, "The same thing He has been saying ever since He created Adam." A better question is, "What is God DOING today?" Well there is room in the economy of God for many things at many levels. But the most important thing that the Lord is doing today is found in Isaiah 11.

Isaiah 11:11, "And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set His hand again the second time to recover the remnant of His people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea."

A number of years ago the Holy Spirit quickened the significance of those 8 modern-day captors. I do not have time in this message to adequately share the prophetic significance of each of those 8 captors, but I will be happy to email to you a detailed explanation. Very briefly, and collectively, they speak of bondage to money, success, education, the wisdom of this world, food, entertainment, all the pleasures of this world, sex, politics, mixture and impurities of all kinds, the desire to make us a name, fleshly attempts to bring about the kingdom of God on earth, desires to be like the world, vain imaginations, traditions of men, having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof, and being lukewarm. Nothing has changed in 6000 years. The nature of man has never changed, but man's best efforts fail.

Isaiah 11:11 obviously has not yet been fulfilled. In our day, many of the people of God, all professing Christians, are in bondage and captivity to 8 captors, not just one as in the time of Moses. But the Lord is in process even now to prepare the modern-day Moses to deliver His people out of the 8-fold captivity. The modern-day Moses will not be one person, but a company of deliverers (as it says in Obadiah 21) or the sons of Zadok, as it says in Ezekiel 44:23.

Did anyone say, brother I am not in any kind of bondage?

John 8:31-33,"Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?"

I can't tell you how many times I have heard a Christian minister quote John 8:32 as, "ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free." But we were set free by Calvary when we were born from above. We are being made free if we continue in His word and are His disciples indeed.

Most of you have seen a bumper sticker that says, "Wise Men Still Seek Him." Well, wise men still ask the Lord for discernment, even as Solomon did in verse 9, above. Have you ever asked the Lord for His discernment?

In our next message, we plan to share with you about the scriptural fear of God. Until then, grace, mercy, and peace to each one and may you continue to be blessed as you labor and rest in His Vineyard.





A Sure Foundation

Below is but a  small  measure of revelation that my father had received from the Lord. I hope this will be a blessing to you. All that is w...