"I must awaken hunger in their hearts, for until they hunger they cannot be fed." - Mattie "Mama" Payne

7.31.2025

Baptism In Water

Below is but a small measure of revelation that my father had received from the Lord. I hope this will be a blessing to you. All that is written below are the words of my father.

Baptism In Water
In loving memory of my father
Robert Louis (Bob) Padgett
July 28, 1931-May 22, 2023


We believe that some misunderstandings exist in Christian circles concerning being baptized in water. Because of lack of proper teaching concerning water baptism, some folks just get wet. It becomes a ritual, a form, with no real change in the life of the person who is baptized. All such misunderstandings come from our natural, carnal minds, which can never understand the word of God.

Jesus was baptized in water by John the Baptist in the Jordan River. The Jordan River represents a place of inheritance, a place to cross over from the old to the new, a place of transition from death to life. 

13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.
14 But John forbade Him, saying, I have need to be baptized of Thee, and comest Thou to me?
15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfill all righteousness. Then he suffered him. Matthew 3:13-15

When Jesus said, "For thus it becometh us to fulfill all righteousness," He was referring to fulfilling the plan and purpose of God. What was that plan and purpose? Jesus fulfilled the law,

That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Romans 8:4

When Jesus was baptized He was identifying Himself with the men He came to save, in the hour of their new consciousness of their own sin, and of their search for God. Jesus identified with man in every way. This fact is critical for our understanding of baptism in water. Jesus identified with man in every way so that we might identify with HIM in every way. Jesus said,

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mark 16:16

Does this mean that unless you are baptized in water then you are not saved? NO!!! What if a man is saved on his deathbed but has no time to be baptized in water?

For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 
1 Corinthians 12:13

We are baptized by the Holy Spirit into the body of Christ ... the church. Do you really believe that a little H2O (water) is required to save someone and that the dynamite power of the Holy Spirit cannot save someone without the application of water? So what does Mark 16:16 mean? "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved." The scripture does NOT say, "baptized in water." Man, in his carnal mind, has included the words "in water." Man always tries to pull the significance of scripture down to his own level, rather than seeking to rise up to the level of the Spirit. Similarly in what men call the "great commission," 

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto Me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Matthew 28:18-19

We do not see anything in that commandment of the Lord to baptize them in water. The verse just says, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Jesus never baptized any one in water (John 4:2). The apostle Paul likewise did not see anything in the "great commission" that says we should baptize them in water. Paul said, speaking of being baptized in water,

For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 1 Corinthians 1:17

Christians actually argue whether we should baptize new believers in water (1) in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost or (2) only in the name of the Lord Jesus. Do you really think that the specific words that the minister says when you are baptized in water makes a difference in your life?

Philip understood "the great commission" in the same way that Paul did.

12 But when they [the people of Samaria] believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized [in water], both men and women.
16 (For as yet He [the Holy Spirit] was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) Acts 8:12, 16

Does this mean that we should NOT be baptized in water? Of course not!!! Every believer, if physically possible, SHOULD be baptized in water. It is true that being baptized in water is an act of obedience. However, being baptized in water is MUCH more than just being obedient to the word. It is an external sign and confirmation to others as well as to our self that we have identified in our heart with the death and resurrection of Jesus. The word "baptism" means to "immerse" or "dip." When we are fully immersed (NOT sprinkled) under the water we are identifying ourselves fully with the death of Jesus. When we come up out of the water, we are identifying with His resurrection. 

3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into His death?
4 Therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Romans 6:3-4

We have said above what we believe Matthew 28:19 and Mark 16:16 do NOT mean. If that be true, then what do those verses actually mean?

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Matthew 28:19

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. Mark 16:16

First of all let us remember that the word "baptize" means to immerse or to dip. In Matthew 28:19, "baptizing them in the name..." should more accurately be translated "baptizing into ..." The Greek word translated as "in" is the word "eis," which means "into." Only three entities in scripture speak of that into which men were (are) baptized. The first is Moses. 

1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 
1 Corinthians 10:1-2

So the Jews were baptized unto Moses. The word "unto" is the same Greek word "eis." So we should more accurately translate that verse as they were "all baptized INTO" Moses. Moses stands for the law. So being baptized into Moses means being immersed into the law. The law then becomes your way of life.

The second entity into which men were baptized was John the Baptist, who represents a transition between law and grace. Scripture is very clear that John baptized in water unto repentance... to prepare the way of the Lord.

John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying they should believe on Him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. Acts 19:4

The third baptism is that recorded in Matthew 28:19, baptizing into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. This means, as Jesus said, "teaching all nations" and immersing them into the Name of the Lord. So Acts 28:19 means we are to teach all nations, immersing them into the Name of the Lord, into the Person of the Lord, into His life, into His truth, into His ways. The Lord becomes our life. His thoughts are to become our thoughts. His will is to become our will. His words are to become our words. His ways are to become our ways. We are to be completely immersed into HIM!

So the Jews were baptized into Moses (the law), then were baptized by John the Baptist into repentance, and finally baptized (fully immersed) into the Name of the Lord (grace and truth). It is by teaching all nations (on our part) and the revelation and power of the Holy Spirit (on His part) that we immerse them into the grace and truth of our Lord.

Note that the Apostle Paul decries any other baptism in his first letter to the Church at Corinth. 

12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in [INTO, the Greek word is "eis"] the name of Paul?
14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name. 
1 Corinthians 1:12-15

The Lord says, Woe to those pastors who baptize (immerse) His people into their own name (character, nature, or doctrine). Now let us examine once more the word in Mark.

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. Mark 16:16

Again, we believe the Entity that verse refers to into which we should be baptized is the Name (Person) of the Lord. The words "shall be saved" is future tense, NOT present tense. Please remember that "we are saved, we are being saved, and we will be saved" IF we hold fast unto the end.

One final word about baptism in general: Scripture speaks about being baptized in water, being baptized with the Holy Ghost and with fire. Others have talked about a baptism of suffering and a baptism of love. I even heard one man teach extensively about being baptized in glory. Please consider the following verses. 

4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, Who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Ephesians 4:4-6

Clearly, these verses say there is only ONE baptism! So is this talking about being baptized in water? or in the Holy Spirit? or what? There is no discrepancy here and no confusion. The problem lies solely in our carnal minds. The one baptism refers to HIS (Jesus') baptism, NOT our baptism. Most doctrinal errors arise when we try to interpret scripture from OUR perspective, as it relates to us, independent of Jesus. This is why many Christians, when they are baptized in water, simply get wet. They do not see the centrality and supremacy of the Lord Jesus Christ. They have not seen that the one baptism is His baptism. When we are baptized in water, we are identifying with HIS death and resurrection, the one baptism. No man (except Jesus) could live up to the law. Likewise, no man (but Christ) can live the Christian life. It is no longer I but it is Christ who lives in me. The Lord is not making us "better." Our old man (human nature) died with Christ at Calvary. We are dead to self but alive unto God. Christ in you is the hope of glory!

Restoring the Truth of Baptism In Water

Below is but a small measure of revelation that my father had received from the Lord. I hope this will be a blessing to you. All that is written below are the words of my father.

Restoring the Truth of Baptism In Water 
In loving memory of my father
Robert Louis (Bob) Padgett
July 28, 1931-May 22, 2023


A universal truth related to our walk as a Christian disciple is that we are called to identify with Jesus, not just with our mind, but in reality, with His baptism, His walk on earth in complete trust and obedience to the Father, His suffering, His weeping over (spiritual) Jerusalem, His death, His burial, His resurrection, and His intercession. Another universal truth is that the Lord, ever since the Reformation, has been gradually revealing more of Himself and His word to those disciples who are looking for Him. Derek Prince, an outstanding teacher in the 20th century, once said that about the year 300 the "Christian world" changed the truth of water baptism. That was a time period when many Christians believed one could not be forgiven if they sinned after baptism.

One of the major truths that the Lord desires to restore today is the true significance of water baptism. For many years I personally had little understanding of the great significance of water baptism, partly because I never remember receiving any teaching on that ordinance and partly because I never looked into the scriptural truth of being baptized in water. I grew up in a Christian environment where water baptism was what a good Christian should do. A few years later I received a little more light (not through a man) that when we are baptized in water we are identifying ourselves with His baptism in water.

On July 3, 2018, one of our grandsons, who lives in California, asked me to baptize him in water. Of course I gladly and with much joy accepted his request. Early Sunday morning, July 8, 2018, in the Virginia Beach area, 14 family members and two young babies gathered together and our grandson was baptized in water. That event was very clearly ordained by the Lord.

However for 3 days prior to his baptism I spent much time seeking the Lord and searching the scriptures on the topic of water baptism, something I had never done before in any depth. I did that because the Holy Spirit quickened to present a brief teaching on water baptism the afternoon before the actual baptism. This word includes an amplified version of what I shared that Saturday afternoon.

As we emphasized in our previous message, a number of verses make it clear that we receive the Holy Spirit at the moment when we receive Jesus Christ as our Savior. We then become new creatures in Christ ... we enter into newness of life ... we are no longer the old person that we used to be. Our eternal salvation is guaranteed provided we do not later reject or deny Jesus or blaspheme the Holy Ghost. Then we must begin to die to self and live for Christ. Once we are "born again" the Lord instructs us to be baptized in water to confirm what has happened to us spiritually. We don't become part of the body of Christ through water baptism, but through faith in Christ. However, we must understand that being born again and baptized in water is not the end of our journey. The end of our journey is to enter the Promised Land, which speaks of the Kingdom of God.

The word "baptize" means to immerse, to dip, or to make fully wet. Immersion is the biblical method of baptism because of its symbolic representation of the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. Anyone who receives water baptism must realize what it means to receive it. An infant cannot do that. Further, an infant cannot repent, cannot believe in his heart that Jesus Christ is Lord, cannot become a disciple of the risen Christ, and cannot answer God with a good conscience. Therefore, infant baptism is not Scriptural; neither is sprinkling, because there is no immersion.

Baptism in water does not bring initial salvation; initial salvation precedes and qualifies us for water baptism, which should be the first thing we do after we are "born again." Those who have received Jesus in their hearts should desire to follow Him or be His disciples. Further all of our steps toward perfection must be carried out by faith with a good conscience to God; i.e., we must be sincere and not simply go through the motions. God knows our heart.

Water baptism is a beautiful picture of what our Lord has done for us. As we are completely immersed in the water, we symbolize the burial of our old man and his works of death; we are baptized into His death on the cross and are no longer slaves to self or sin. Our sins are then washed away by God for those who, by faith, put their trust in Him. When we are raised out of the water, we are likewise resurrected ... raised to new life in Christ to be with Him forever.

Just as water cleanses the flesh, so the Holy Spirit cleanses our hearts when we trust Christ. Every believer, if physically possible, should be baptized in water. These truths are stated in numerous scriptures, such as, 

3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into His death?
4 Therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of His death, we shall be also in the likeness of His resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is [was] crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed [made ineffective], that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over Him.
10 For in that He died, He died unto sin once: but in that He liveth, He liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. Romans 6:3-14

A Scriptural example of being baptized in water is:

17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized. Acts 9:17-18

Later, Paul gives an account of what Ananias said to him.

And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. Acts 22:16

Ananias asked Paul, "Why tarriest thou?" or "What are you waiting for?" A significant fact is that in every example in the New Testament, the believers were baptized immediately in water. But that baptism in water was not the same as the baptism in water unto repentance by John the Baptist. There are two separate, distinct baptisms in water.

When Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist the Spirit of God descended upon Jesus like a dove and He received the Holy Spirit. When Jesus was baptized He was identifying Himself with the men He came to save, in the hour of their new consciousness of their own sin and of their search for God. Jesus identified with man in every way so that we might identify with HIM in every way. But what did Jesus mean when He said, "Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfill all righteousness"? Jesus certainly never needed repentance because He always did the will of the Father. Jesus fulfilled most of the law by his obedience to the word of God. The final part of Jesus fulfilling the law completely was when He was baptized by John the Baptist. John the Baptist's baptism in water does not apply to Christians because Jesus has already fulfilled the law. Christians can never fulfill the law, although some still try to do that. Our baptism in water is not based on law but on grace.

From 1 Corinthians 10:2, which we will look at in detail in a few more minutes, the Jews coming out of Egypt were baptized unto or into Moses. Moses stands for the law, so being baptized into Moses means being immersed into the law. The law then becomes our way of life.

Christians actually argue whether we should baptize new believers in water (1) in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost or (2) only in the name of the Lord Jesus. I see no conflict between those two truths. In Matthew 28:18-20, 

"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto Me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world."

"Baptizing them in the name" should more accurately be translated "baptizing into the name." Baptizing into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost means "teaching (discipling) all nations" and immersing them into the nature, the character, the essence of the Godhead. That includes immersing them into the Name of the Lord, into the Person of the Lord, into His life, into His truth, into His ways. The Lord becomes our life. His thoughts are to become our thoughts. His will is to become our will. His words are to become our words. His ways are to become our ways. We are to be completely immersed into HIM! It is by teaching all nations (on our part) and the revelation and power of the Holy Spirit (on His part) that we immerse them into the grace and truth of our Lord.

The Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 1:12-15 denounces any other baptism. Woe to those pastors who baptize the Lord's people into their own name (character, nature, or doctrine).

Ephesians 4:5 says there is only ONE baptism! So is this talking about being baptized in water? or with the Holy Spirit? or what? There is no discrepancy here and no confusion. The one baptism refers to HIS (Jesus') baptism, NOT our baptism. It refers to identifying with His baptism. Most doctrinal errors arise when we try to interpret scripture from OUR perspective, as it relates to us, independent of Jesus. This is why many Christians, when they are baptized in water, simply get wet. They do not see the centrality and supremacy of the Lord Jesus Christ. They have not seen that the one baptism is His baptism. When we are baptized in water, we are identifying with HIS death, burial, and resurrection, the one baptism.

Now let us look at two of the major Old Testament patterns of water baptism. In the Old Testament we see two arks ... the ark in Genesis and the ark in Exodus. The ark in Genesis is the ark that Noah built according to the detailed instructions of the Lord. The ark in Exodus is the ark in the tabernacle of Moses ... again built according to the specific instructions of the Lord. Both arks speak of the Lord Jesus Christ. The ark of Noah speaks of us in Christ. The ark of the tabernacle speaks of Christ in you, the hope of glory.

That great flood brought judgment to those not in the ark but life to the eight who went into the ark. Have you ever considered that many of the animals that went into the ark were mortal enemies of some other animals? for example, the lion and the lamb. Just think of all of the problems Noah might have had. But every creature that entered the ark underwent a change in nature, in behavior. So it is with us. When we enter into Christ, are born again and baptized in water, we undergo a change in our nature, in our behavior. If any professing Christian does not undergo a change then it is questionable whether they have ever been born again. We should note (Genesis 8:19) that when Noah and his family and all of the animals "went forth out of the ark," they (both man and beast) soon reverted to their old nature. Even Noah got drunk and was seen naked by his sons. It is only in Christ that we can walk in newness of life. 

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also He went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: 1 Peter 3:18-21

Note that only eight souls were saved. The population of the earth at that time was perhaps two million. Eight out of two million is a very small percentage. Verse 21 says "the like figure whereunto even baptism doth also save us ..." So it is perhaps likely that the same percentage applies in these last days... eight out of two million. "Many are called but few are chosen" (Matthew 22:14).

A second Old Testament pattern of water baptism is described in 1 Corinthians, Chapter 10. 

1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
[Baptized in the sea speaks of water baptism; baptism in the cloud speaks of being baptized with the Holy Spirit.]
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted
7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 1 Corinthians 10:1-11

From Verses 6 and 11, what happened when the Israelites were delivered from bondage and captivity in Egypt are examples for us and for our admonition. Verse 1 is one of six times in the New Testament that Paul says, "I would not that ye should be ignorant." Peter says the same thing once. In Exodus 13 and 14 we read that the Israelites first killed a lamb and put the blood on the two side posts and on the lintel, above the door. That foreshadowed the blood of the Lamb which was shed at Calvary. When we trust in that precious blood, we experience being born-again ... the first step in our salvation. But the blood of Jesus, as important and necessary as it is for us, was not (and is not) the final separation from the forces of darkness.

Before the departing Israelites reached the Red Sea, 

21 And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night:
22 He took not away the pillar of the cloud by day, nor the pillar of fire by night, from before the people. Exodus 13:21-22

Note that the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of cloud. The pillar of a cloud and a pillar of fire typify being baptized with the Holy Spirit. The Bible clearly portrays Christ as the baptizer: "I [John the Baptist] baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire" (Matthew 3:11). But neither was it the baptism with the Holy Ghost that caused the final separation of the Israelites from bondage and captivity.

19 And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them:
20 And it came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel; and it was a cloud and darkness to them, but it gave light by night to these: so that the one came not near the other all the night. Exodus 14:19-20

When the Egyptians, with their 600 chariots, were about to catch up with the Israelites, the pillar of cloud moved from before the Israelites to behind them. Thus the Israelites passed under the cloud prior to passing through the sea. The Lord caused the waters of the Red Sea to divide and the Israelites passed through the Sea on dry ground. The fact that the riverbed became dry ground is itself a miracle. The Israelites passed through the Red Sea by faith.

By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned. Hebrews 11:29

Why did the Egyptians drown? because they did not pass through the sea by faith. "But without faith it is impossible to please Him: ..." (Hebrews 11:6). It is critical to understand that the Egyptians all drowned in the Red Sea and therefore could no longer pursue the Israelites. Not one of the pursuing Egyptians was able to pass through the Red sea. Every one of them drowned. The final separation of the forces of darkness, represented by Egypt, from the Israelites happened when the Israelites passed through the sea, symbolic of water baptism.

Passing through the sea was life to the Israelites but darkness and death to all the forces of evil. Passing through the sea speaks of water baptism. Therefore the final separation between the Israelites and the evil forces of darkness occurred when they passed through the sea. That means that the last inch of any legitimate claim that the enemy has over us is removed after we are baptized in water. From that point on in the life of a believer, the only way that the enemy can do us any harm is if we act in unbelief, as in 1 Corinthians 10:5-10.

Returning to 1 Corinthians 10:5-10, we read that with many (or most) of them, God was not well pleased. Why? because they reverted in numerous ways back to works of the flesh. They did not die daily to self. In effect, they no longer trusted the Lord. As a result only two adults, Joshua and Caleb, actually entered the Promised Land (the Kingdom of God).

All Israel passed through a double baptism ... a baptism under the cloud (the baptism with the Holy Spirit) and a baptism in the sea (water baptism). Just before they passed through the sea, the pillar of cloud was their protection by day and the pillar of fire was their protection throughout the night. But when they passed through the sea on dry land, they emerged a new people, with new laws, a new leader, and a new destination. The enemy could no longer touch them as long as they continued in faith and did not yield to the lies of darkness.

The beautiful truth of the profound provisions in water baptism for the Lord's people is complete remission of past sins, a divine new nature extended, and final separation from the forces of darkness. We must once more emphasize the tremendous importance of water baptism. The final separation of the people of God from the forces of darkness was not the blood of the Lamb which was shed at Calvary; it was not the baptism with the Holy Spirit; but it was when we pass through the sea of the baptism in water. At that point the enemy has no legitimate right to follow us anymore. We have accepted the lies of the enemy long enough! May the true meaning of water baptism restore that which the Lord intends and give us all overwhelming gratitude for His unfolding truths!

The real tragedy was when many of the Christian community downgraded the importance of water baptism. But praise the Lord who is restoring the truth of being baptized in water!

The end of the matter is by our daily dying to self and our daily obedience to the Lord, by the power of the Holy Ghost, we allow the Spirit of God continuously to make us perfect until He appears the second time without sin unto salvation. Come quickly, Lord Jesus!

In our next three messages, we hope to share the significance of the Day of Pentecost, as recorded in the Book of Acts.

Wounded Healers

Below is but a small measure of revelation that my father had received from the Lord. I hope this will be a blessing to you. All that is written below are the words of my father.

Wounded Healers
In loving memory of my father
Robert Louis (Bob) Padgett
July 28, 1931-May 22, 2023


In our previous message we shared with you the significance of the three anointings of Jesus, all by women. Now we want to share a related word, which is one of the best examples of what Jesus said in Matthew 25:40, 

"And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

I believe hundreds of thousands of Christians need to hear this word. Let us look at some verses in Jeremiah 38, verses 1-13. 

1 Then Shephatiah the son of Mattan, and Gedaliah the son of Pashur, and Jucal the son of Shelemiah, and Pashur the son of Malchiah, heard the words that Jeremiah had spoken unto all the people, saying,
2 Thus saith the LORD, He that remaineth in this city shall die by the sword, by the famine, and by the pestilence: but he that goeth forth to the Chaldeans shall live; for he shall have his life for a prey, and shall live.
3 Thus saith the LORD, This city shall surely be given into the hand of the king of Babylon's army, which shall take it.
4 Therefore the princes said unto the king, We beseech thee, let this man be put to death: for thus he weakeneth the hands of the men of war that remain in this city, and the hands of all the people, in speaking such words unto them: for this man seeketh not the welfare of this people, but the hurt.
5 Then Zedekiah the king said, Behold, he is in your hand: for the king is not he that can do any thing against you.
6 Then took they Jeremiah, and cast him into the dungeon of Malchiah the son of Hammelech, that was in the court of the prison: and they let down Jeremiah with cords. And in the dungeon there was no water, but mire: so Jeremiah sunk in the mire.
7 Now when Ebedmelech the Ethiopian, one of the eunuchs which was in the king's house, heard that they had put Jeremiah in the dungeon; the king then sitting in the gate of Benjamin;
8 Ebedmelech went forth out of the king's house, and spake to the king, saying,
9 My lord the king, these men have done evil in all that they have done to Jeremiah the prophet, whom they have cast into the dungeon; and he is like to die for hunger in the place where he is: for there is no more bread in the city.
10 Then the king commanded Ebedmelech the Ethiopian, saying, Take from hence thirty men with thee, and take up Jeremiah the prophet out of the dungeon, before he die.
11 So Ebedmelech took the men with him, and went into the house of the king under the treasury, and took thence old cast clouts and old rotten rags, and let them down by cords into the dungeon to Jeremiah.
12 And Ebedmelech the Ethiopian said unto Jeremiah, Put now these old cast clouts and rotten rags under thine armholes under the cords. And Jeremiah did so.
13 So they drew up Jeremiah with cords, and took him up out of the dungeon: and Jeremiah remained in the court of the prison.

These verses are an example of the contrast between the natural, carnal, logical thinking of any man or group of men (Christian or otherwise) and the Word of the Lord. The first six verses, above, represent the rule of man; the next seven verses represent the rule of God. This also demonstrates what can happen when the leadership of God's chosen people goes astray.

Zedekiah was the last king of Judah before its fall to the Babylonians. Zedekiah lacked vision and resolution and is classified among the evil kings. Although he was king, it was in name only (Verse 5); he had positional authority but was too weak-willed to have spiritual authority. The lack of character of Zedekiah is also seen in Verse 19: "And Zedekiah the king said unto Jeremiah, I am afraid of the Jews that are fallen to the Chaldeans, lest they deliver me into their hand, and they mock me."

What we see here is perhaps the most tender, compassionate account of any event in the entire Old Testament. "Ebed-melech" means "servant of the king." The name "Ebedmelech," is assigned to only one man in the Bible. He was not only a servant of King Zedekiah; he was, more importantly, a servant of the true living God, the King of kings. He was an Ethiopian eunuch in the palace of Zedekiah, the last king of Judah prior to the destruction of Jerusalem and the Babylonian captivity under Nebuchadnezzar, about 588 B.C. As an Ethiopian, Ebed-melech was raised as a heathen, undoubtedly dark-skinned, and one of a despicable type at that time. According to "All the Men of the Bible," "The Eastern eunuchs were a pitilessly cruel race, whose delight was to wound and vex. No clan had a worse reputation for cruelty." 

Let us consider this man. As an Ethiopian, he was rejected by his own people and sold into slavery. There is NO action worse than to be rejected by your own. There is nothing more difficult to overcome than to have been rejected by your own. My wife knows that from firsthand experience. She was rejected (disinherited) by her father because she had become a Christian and suffered a lack of aid and compassion from a brother who had power to assist. Her rightful inheritance would have been about $500,000, but she never received one penny from his estate. The greatest suffering that Jesus endured was when He became sin on the cross and sin was crucified. At that point in time, Jesus experienced a separation from the Father. Jesus said, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?"

One thing that Africans have a very difficult time reconciling is that it was Africans who sold Africans into slavery. That is what happened to Ebed-melech. Sometime in the past he was sold by his own into slavery and hauled 2000 miles north to the king's house in Jerusalem. There were no cars or trains or planes in that day, so the journey must have taken at least three months. He must have been a fine specimen of a man in the natural realm. We will never know (on earth) all of the indignities that he suffered. He had probably been locked in a cage for the long trip, with insufficient food and water. He was wounded as much as the Ethiopians had wounded others. Somewhere along the way they tied him down like a wild animal and castrated him ... robbed him of his manhood ... they robbed him! He could never have a natural family of children. Further, according to the law given through Moses, 

"He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD." Deuteronomy 23:1

They forced him into becoming a eunuch to serve in the king's palace. But as we will see, Ebed-melech did NOT let his past define him.

In terms of power and position, Ebedmelech had little going for him. He was an example of the weak of the world (1 Corinthians 1:26-27) who are chosen by God to confound the mighty; he became a fit representative of the people of God, whose "citizenship is in heaven" (Philippians 3:20). A great irony is the fact that he was more a man than his master the king, who, by his birth and position, represents those having a vested interest in "this present evil world" (Galatians 1:4). Zedekiah in fear fled responsibility first and, in the natural course of things, his enemies later. Years before Zedekiah's acts of cowardice, God called Ebedmelech to do a work for Him. Unlike Zedekiah, who became paralyzed by fear, Ebedmelech overcame his fear, set aside his humiliation, and discounted his disenfranchisement ... all to the effect that he boldly approached the king, reproached his princes, and risked his life in an act of mercy on behalf of God's prophet.

Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? Jeremiah 13:23

The implied answer to that question is NO. The Ethiopian cannot change his skin, or the leopard his spots. But the Lord can do those things and much more. The fact that Ebedmelech was an Ethiopian means that he was a heathen and one of a despicable type at that time period.

The Ethiopian eunuchs were a cruel race, whose delight was to wound others. No clan had a worse reputation for cruelty, but Ebedmelech was different, or rather had been made different by the Lord. He was a triumph of grace in the clan to which he belonged. He had a transformed moral character. He was as kind, tender, and compassionate as the rest of his clan were cruel. Scripture offers no record of when and how the Lord changed the heart of Ebed-melech.

Returning to Jeremiah 38:9, "My lord the king, these men have done evil in all that they have done to Jeremiah the prophet, whom they have cast into the dungeon; and he is like to die for hunger in the place where he is: for there is no more bread in the city." 

Ebed-melech heard the cry of the prophet Jeremiah in the dungeon. He could have said, "I have suffered, let Jeremiah suffer." He could have said, "Let Jeremiah die in the dungeon; he deserves it; what goes around comes around." He could have said, "I am very comfortable here in the king's palace; why should I get involved?" However, Ebedmelech received from the Lord a quality thought; he decided to petition the king on behalf of Jeremiah. That is called intercession; to petition the King is intercession. He decided to do for Jeremiah that which Jeremiah could not do for himself. He determined to do all that he could to rescue Jeremiah.

Even though Ebedmelech had been wounded like few men have been wounded, he made a quality decision ... he interceded on behalf of Jeremiah. Wounded? yes, but he became a wounded healer. He had no thought for himself; he set out to rescue the Lord's prophet.

Inasmuch as ye have done it to one of the least of these, ye have done it unto Me.

Verse 10, "Then the king commanded Ebedmelech the Ethiopian, saying, Take from hence thirty men with thee, and take up Jeremiah the prophet out of the dungeon, before he die." Zedekiah also made a quality decision. He told Ebed-melech, "Don't try to rescue Jeremiah by yourself; take thirty men with you." Christians with good intentions sometimes kill the person they are trying to rescue. The friends of Job had good intentions, but they were missing some important characteristics; they did not understand the ways of the Lord. Sometimes we believers can get a lot of zeal to "deliver" a brother so we run off by ourselves to do a glorious work for the Lord. And sometimes we do more harm than good. Further, if we do something alone, there is a tendency to get "puffed up" about our good work. Of course in Ebedmelech's case, the 30 men were for protection in the event that the princes tried to stop him.

Verses 11 and 12: "So Ebedmelech took the men with him, and went into the house of the king under the treasury, and took thence old cast clouts and old rotten rags, and let them down by cords into the dungeon to Jeremiah. And Ebedmelech the Ethiopian said unto Jeremiah, Put now these old cast clouts and rotten rags under thine armholes under the cords. And Jeremiah did so."

Ebedmelech took Zedekiah's advice. He made another quality decision ... he also used wisdom. He did not simply lower a rope down to Jeremiah to pull him up because he knew that the rope alone would cut Jeremiah's armpits. So he also lowered old cast clouts and rotten rags to soften the bite of the rope under Jeremiah's armholes ... the Lord's tender provision for us.

Then, in Verse 13, "they" (not he) drew up Jeremiah out of the mire in the dungeon and Jeremiah remained in the court of the prison."

Now if all we receive from the account of Ebedmelech is a nice, historical story, then we miss the point. Today there are many believers who have been wounded ... some have been born with physical handicaps which have lasted their lifetime; some have been born almost blind, others born with cerebral palsy, many good men have developed prostrate cancer, and various other maladies. Others have been wounded emotionally or spiritually in various and sundry ways. A few have been spoken evil of by other brothers. A number of good men over the years have been put on trial by the charismatic/Spirit-filled Sanhedrins of their time.

Ebedmelech was wounded by other men ... yes ... but he overcame his wounds and became a wounded healer. We, you and I, may likewise have been wounded in the past; but all the more reason for us to make a quality decision to become, like Ebedmelech, a wounded healer. Ebedmelech did for Jeremiah that which Jeremiah could not do for himself. He interceded before the king. We likewise can intercede before the King of kings for those believers who cannot help themselves.

Ebed-melech demonstrated zeal, wisdom, and compassion. If Ebed-melech had simply let down cords or ropes with which to pull up Jeremiah, the cords would have cut Jeremiah's armpits. Instead, Ebed-melech took old cast clouts and old rotten rags and let them down to Jeremiah. He told Jeremiah to put the soft, rotten rags against his armpits, under the cords, so the cords would not cut Jeremiah's flesh when he was pulled up out of the dungeon. In order to rescue a brother, you not only need zeal, you need wisdom; and you not only need wisdom, you need compassion. Ebed-melech was a wounded healer. There is NO record in scripture that Ebed-melech ever complained about all of his sufferings. Instead, he refused to allow his past to define him; he set aside all of his past and he made a DECISION to rescue Jeremiah.

What happened to Ebed-melech as a result of his compassionate deliverance of Jeremiah? God rewarded Ebed-melech with survival of the Chaldean invasion (Jeremiah 39:17-18). He received a prophet's reward (Matthew 10:41-42).

15 Now the word of the Lord came unto Jeremiah, while he was shut up in the court of the prison, saying,
16 Go and speak to Ebed-melech the Ethiopian, saying, Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring my words upon this city for evil, and not for good; and they shall be accomplished in that day before thee.
17 But I will deliver thee in that day, saith the Lord: and thou shalt not be given into the hand of the men of whom thou art afraid.
18 For I will surely deliver thee, and thou shalt not fall by the sword, but thy life shall be for a prey unto thee: because thou hast put thy trust in Me, saith the Lord. Jeremiah 39:15-18

Joseph is another example of a wounded healer. Joseph was sold into slavery by his own brothers ... rejected by his own. Joseph likewise suffered many indignities. He labored as a slave in Egypt but was faithful in every hard place. He refused to yield to sexual temptation, was falsely accused by his master's wife, and thrown into prison. There is NO record that Joseph ever tried to defend himself before Pharaoh; Joseph recognized the sovereignty of God. Joseph, like Ebed-melech, COULD have become very bitter over his circumstances and his unjust suffering. But Joseph likewise made a quality decision; he decided to trust the Lord in ALL things! Joseph knew how to return good for evil. When his brothers came to Egypt for food, Joseph could have gotten revenge for what they had done to him years earlier. The same will be true for the Joseph company in these end times. The Lord is working such a tenderness and compassion into the Joseph company that they will love the very ones who in times past persecuted them.

The Apostle Paul was another example of a wounded healer. At least three different times Paul calls himself a servant, a slave, a bond-servant [doulos] of the Lord Jesus Christ. 

23 Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft.
24 Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one.
25 Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep;
26 In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;
27 In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness.
28 Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches.
29 Who is weak, and I am not weak? who is offended, and I burn not?
30 If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities.
31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not. 2 Corinthians 11:23-31

Now, let us consider the ultimate wounded healer, Jesus Christ. No man ever suffered as did Jesus. Jesus was also betrayed by His own. We all know that Judas betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of silver. Many of His disciples forsook Him (John 6:66) when He spoke about spiritual things. Just before Jesus was crucified, "they ALL forsook Him and fled" (Mark 14:50). Scripture says that Jesus was wounded for our transgressions (Isaiah 53:5); he was wounded

4 Surely He hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed, and He was afflicted, yet He opened not his mouth: He is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so He openeth not his mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare His generation? for He was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of My people was He stricken.
9 And He made His grave with the wicked, and with the rich in His death; because He had done no violence, neither was any deceit in His mouth.
10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him; He hath put Him to grief: when thou shalt make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand.
11 He shall see of the travail of His soul, and shall be satisfied: by His knowledge shall My righteous servant justify many; for He shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore will I divide Him a portion with the great, and He shall divide the spoil with the strong; because He hath poured out His soul unto death: and He was numbered with the transgressors; and He bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. Isaiah 53:4-12

All four gospels express the weight of going to the cross upon our Lord, but His overriding desire was to do the will of the Father.

And He went a little farther, and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from Me: nevertheless not as I will, but as Thou wilt. Matthew 26:39

Anytime, you feel some self-pity rising up within, go back and read Hebrews 12 again. 

2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
3 For consider Him that endureth such contradiction of sinners against Himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.
4 Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.
5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of Him:
6 For whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom He receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the Father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. Hebrews 12:2-8

We know that Jesus walked on the earth for forty days after His resurrection (Acts 1:3). Like Ebed-melech, like Joseph, and like Paul, there is NO record that Jesus, during those forty days, ever spoke about all of the suffering that he endured. Likewise, Jesus has never spoken from heaven about His wounds or His sufferings! Jesus, the ultimate wounded healer, NEVER spoke about his wounds. Wounded? Yes; but a wounded Healer! NOT ONCE did Jesus ever mention what happened to Him at Calvary!

No man ever suffered as did the Man, Jesus. Despite all of His wounds, Jesus ever lives to make intercession for us, the true believers. As soon as the 7,000 that we do not know about identify with His intercession and will weep between the porch and the altar on behalf of the Body of Christ (Joel 2:17), what will happen? The Lord will return. Even so, come Lord Jesus come.

Now, YOU and I also are called to be a wounded healer! It must be the same with us. Too many Christians ask for prayer for the same thing every week. There are too many Christians who go from one counsellor's pad to another ... from one pastor to another ... always whining and complaining .. always looking for pity and/or prayer. It is time for Christians to stop their complaining, get their thumb out of their mouth, stop running from church to church, from pastor to pastor, looking for help (sympathy, or pity) for their wounds. Instead it is time for Christians everywhere to stop being the wounded, put the past behind us, do not let the past define us, and to become "wounded healers."

You may say, but brother you don't know all of the things which I have suffered ... you don't know how people have rejected me and treated me badly. You don't know about all of my wounds. You don't know about how I lost my job, or got sick, or how my business went under. You don't know that I was a victim of incest or rape; you don't know that my wife ran away with another man; you don't know how some Christian brethren have persecuted me. That is true. I do NOT know about your particular sufferings. But God does know! And there is POWER in the Name of the Lord! There is POWER in the blood of Jesus! There is POWER in the Holy Spirit! By the grace of God YOU can lay aside all of your wounds and sufferings; you can REFUSE to allow your past to define you; you do NOT have to be forever the wounded; you too can be a wounded healer. It does NOT take some special dispensation! It does NOT take some special gift or ministry! All that is required for us to lay aside all of our wounds and sufferings is a quality decision on OUR part! It is simply an act of our will. We can simply choose to stop being the wounded and become a wounded healer. Only YOU and I can decide whether we will be forever the wounded, or by the grace of God, a wounded healer! May the Lord be glorified.

Vision

Below is but a small measure of revelation that my father had received from the Lord. I hope this will be a blessing to you. All that is written below are the words of my father.

Vision
In loving memory of my father
Robert Louis (Bob) Padgett
July 28, 1931-May 22, 2023


Many years ago I found myself drawing a diagram, which reflects the maturity pattern of every believer. Now you cannot see my diagram but think of the face of a watch or clock, starting at 12 a.m.  

Of course all of the entries in that diagram speak of the spiritual realm. In the diagram that the Lord gave me, everything starts with the Word of God. The Word of God is always both the starting place and the ending place. He is the Alpha and the Omega and He is everything in between. 
1 In the beginning was the Word [logos], and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God
14 And the Word was made [or became] flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 1:1-2, 14

Try to visualize "The Word of God" being with the hands of the clock straight up ... at 12 o'clock. With the hands of the clock going clockwise, at 1:30 we have "vision" followed by hearing at 3 o'clock. Then at 4:30 we have "faith" followed by obedience at 6 o'clock. At 7:30 we have righteousness, followed by holiness at 9 o'clock. Then at 10:30 we see "the word made flesh". Then the cycle repeats at 12 o'clock.

There are three sets of pairs ... vision and hearing, faith and obedience, and righteousness and holiness. It should not be surprising that all of these pairs are found in the book of Romans, which contains the general, basic doctrine of the Christian life. But the important aspect is that the Word must become flesh within us. "Christ in you, the hope of glory." That diagram reflects the maturity pattern of every believer.

Vision and hearing are twins which go together in many scriptures. In almost all of scripture, vision comes before hearing. This is also true in the natural realm. We SEE lightning before we hear the associated sound. If a supersonic jet aircraft passes overhead, we SEE the plane before we hear the sonic boom. The speed of light is much faster than the speed of sound.

We need to emphasize the importance of vision. Vision is the first aspect on the road to maturity. Without vision, the people perish; without vision, we can never get to step 2.

One of the major verses about vision is found in Proverbs 29:18, 

"Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he."

Where there is no vision, the people perish. We might add that where there is little vision the people are weak and sickly and many sleep (1 Corinthians 11:30). Why are many weak and sickly and many sleep? The answer is found in 1 Corinthians 11:29 ... not discerning the Lord's body.

Now, who is "he that keepeth the law?" Only one Man has ever been able to keep the law ... the Man Christ Jesus. Likewise only one Man can ever live the Christian life... the Man Christ Jesus. There are a multitude of "commandments" in the New Testament ... many spoken by the Man Jesus Christ. For example, "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect." That is a commandment! Do you know any believer, past or present who is perfect? "Happy" can be translated as "blessed."

It is vital that we understand that ALL things come from God. No man can see the Lord or the ways of the Lord unless He opens our spiritual eyes. No man can hear unless the Lord gives us spiritual ears to hear. From Deuteronomy 29,

2 And Moses called unto all Israel, and said unto them, Ye have seen all that the LORD did before your eyes in the land of Egypt unto Pharaoh, and unto all his servants, and unto all his land;

From Verse 2, all Israel had seen glimpses of the glory of God with their natural eyes. They had seen many miracles from the hand of the Lord, not the least of which was their deliverance from their captivity and bondage in Egypt. 

3 The great temptations which thine eyes have seen, the signs, and those great miracles:
4 Yet the LORD hath not given you an heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, unto this day. Deuteronomy 29:2-4

Why did the Lord not give all Israel a heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear? Because of their hard heart, their murmuring and complaining, because they were idolaters, because they tempted Christ, because they lusted after evil things, because they committed fornication ... in other words because they no longer trusted the Lord but were only self-seeking.

When Paul was apprehended on the road to Damascus, 

3 .. and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:
4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou Me?
5 And he said, Who art Thou, Lord? Acts 9:3-5

Here again we see that vision precedes hearing. Paul saw the blinding light and then heard the voice of the Lord. Jesus had the same experience. He SAW the Spirit of God descending upon Him and then He HEARD a voice from heaven. 

16 And Jesus, when He was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and lo, the heavens were opened unto Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon Him.
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is My beloved Son, in Whom I am well pleased. Matthew 3:16-17

I have searched the scriptures rather carefully and I have found only one place where hearing seems to come before seeing, where Paul tells the saints at Philippi,

Those things which ye have both learned, and received [accepted], and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you. Philippians 4:9

Why is the order in this one verse exactly reversed from all of the others? In all of the other verses vision precedes hearing. If you go back and re-check the diagram that the Lord gave me, everything starts with the Word of God, then vision and hearing, then faith and obedience, then righteousness and holiness, and finally the Word becomes flesh within us. The important aspect is that the Word must become flesh within us. "Christ in you, the hope of glory." The order is that way because that order reflects revelation from the Spirit of God to us and within us ... how the word becomes flesh. But Paul in Philippians 4:9 speaks of the way of teaching ... from man to man, not revelation from the Spirit. So Paul starts with those things which the Philippians have learned. This represents Paul's personal understanding of the gospel, and few would argue about the depth of Paul's understanding of the gospel. We learn from good teachers before revelation of the Spirit sheds light in our hearts. It is very important to understand that all of our teaching, some good, some not so good, is for naught unless the Spirit of God anoints that word and reveals to us the significance. Some times we may receive revelation from our Father BEFORE any man teaches us. In general this happens much more with true apostles and true prophets, but we dare not limit God.

But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in Him. 
1 John 2:27

Returning to Philippians 4:9, "Those things which ye have both learned, and received [accepted], and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you." Paul then speaks of the things that the Philippians have received in the way of accepted doctrine and teachings. But Paul goes further than that. He tells the Philippians to do those things that they have heard and seen in him. That is why Paul could say, "Follow me." His life exhibited what he taught. Unfortunately, there is a real lack of teachers and preachers today when it comes to Paul's last point. There may be many good teachers, but those teachers who PRACTICE what they preach are much more rare. A good teacher must demonstrate in action in his daily life the truth which he expresses in words. Now we know that NO man is perfect. When all we see of a teacher is his teaching ability in a formal meeting of believers, we tend to put that man on a pedestal. How does his life measure up in the day-to-day activities, particularly when things do not seem to go right for him? That is the true test.

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Matthew 7:20

I have never been overly impressed by what a person "knows." What impresses me is who they ARE or who they have BECOME. That requires much more effort. Fruit, of course, does not immediately appear in the life of a believer. First the blade, then the ear, then the full corn in the ear. First the blossom, then the bud, then the full fruit or flower.

In Old Testament times God raised up prophets to speak His word to His people. When the prophets spoke, it was largely (but not altogether) a word of exhortation or correction. We Christians today still do not like correction. That is called human nature. One example

1 Kings 16:33, "And Ahab made a grove; and Ahab did more to provoke the LORD God of Israel to anger than all the kings of Israel that were before him."

1 Kings 18:17, "And it came to pass, when Ahab saw Elijah, that Ahab said unto him, Art thou he that troubleth Israel?"

I have been convinced for many long years that the Lord will soon unveil a prophetic company which will trouble all modern-day spiritual Israel; i.e. the visible church.

The Lord also used the Old Testament prophets, at times, to speak a word of comfort or encouragement to His people. The book of Isaiah has many such words of comfort. So it was, and is, the grace of God to raise up prophets to SEE and hear a word from the Lord and to warn or to encourage His people.

Have you ever noticed the first verse in five of the books of the so-called "minor" prophets? Five, of course, symbolizes the grace of God.

The words of Amos, who was among the herdmen of Tekoa, which he saw concerning Israel in the days of Uzziah king of Judah, and in the days of Jereboam the son of Joash king of Israel, two years before the earthquake. Amos 1:1

The vision of Obadiah ... Obadiah 1:1

The word of the Lord that came to Micah the Morasthite in the days of Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah, which he saw concerning Samaria and Jerusalem. Micah 1:1

The burden of Nineveh. The book of the vision of Nahum the Elkoshite. Nahum 1:1

The burden which Habakkuk the prophet did see. Habakkuk 1:1

So five of these minor prophets were allowed by the Lord to SEE something that the Lord wanted them to convey to His people. In reality, all of the prophets in the Old Testament "saw" something of the Lord. Daniel saw the hand writing on the wall. Isaiah saw the Lord, in Isaiah 6. Ezekiel saw many things concerning the state of the chosen people of God. Job and Zechariah saw that which the Lord wanted them to see.

Many years ago I heard a minister of quite some maturity comment on the first 2 verses in Hebrews 1. When I say "quite some maturity," I mean that I personally saw the Lord use that man many times in a marvelous way. 

1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son, Whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by Whom also He made the worlds; Hebrews 1:1-2

That minister implied very strongly (although he did not bluntly so state) that prophets were only for Old Testament times. We did not agree then and we do not agree now. One good scriptural basis is in Ephesians. 

11 And He gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: Ephesians 4:11-13

Verse 13 definitely has not yet been fulfilled. We have not all come unto a perfect man. Therefore all of those five ministries are still available to man. If there are no longer apostles and prophets, then there are likewise no longer evangelists, pastors and teachers. Christians still argue whether Verse 11 speaks of four ministries or five ministries. We believe the answer is "five." Whereas all pastors should be "apt to teach," (1 Timothy 3:2), not every teacher is likewise capable of functioning as a pastor. How do I know? because I have personally known a very good teacher who never could function as a pastor, although he tried for many years.

I am reasonably certain that during the decline and apostasy of the tribes of Israel and Judah (which we find repeated over and over again in the Old Testament), the people almost NEVER believed that they were in apostasy. Therefore when the Lord sent them a prophet to jolt them out of their erroneous ways, the prophet was generally rejected, frequently jailed, and occasionally even killed. This was also true in New Testament times. John the Baptist was beheaded for speaking the truth. Stephen was stoned to death for speaking the truth. If we look at all of the original apostles, as well as Paul, only one of them escaped a violent death. That was John, who also was boiled in oil but survived.

Jesus Christ was crucified for speaking and BEING the Truth. Has anything changed today? NO!!! Is the church in a decline or apostasy today? in my opinion, yes. Why? Because of a 
lack of vision! Where there is NO vision, the people perish. Where there is little or a small vision, the people are weak and sickly. I am the first to agree that, "God hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son." But the scripture does NOT say that, "God hath in these last days spoken unto us ONLY by His Son." God speaks to us in a multitude of ways. The problem is in our vision and our hearing.

One of the major functions of a prophet is to help to expand and enlarge the vision of the people. Does that mean that a prophet is someone special? NO! It means that a person with the ministry of a prophet (which is quite different from the gift of prophecy) has been allowed to see more of God's ways ... has been granted, by His grace, a higher vision than other members of the body; for what purpose? to help to encourage other members of the body to come up higher. The prophet Isaiah speaks about "the burden of the valley of vision" (Isaiah 22:1). When you are in a valley, you cannot see too much. We need to rise up to the mountaintop to see more of the Lord and His ways.

1 Samuel 9:9, "(Beforetime in Israel, when a man went to enquire of God, thus he spake, Come, and let us go to the seer: for he that is now called a Prophet was beforetime called a Seer.) 

One reason why the visible church is so lukewarm and content today is because of the lack of prophetic ministry within our churches.
- John Yates

If we believe all of the reports from supposedly real Spirit-filled Christians, there must be hundreds of thousands of prophets in the United States today. I, for one, do not believe it.
- Erskine's comment. Don Murphy's comment.

My wife loves to work in the yard, with shrubs, plants, flowers, trees, and grass. The Lord has given her many revelations about our Christian walk from analogies in the yard. One such revelation she received had to do with how to keep the lawn (grass) healthy and get rid of weeds. We need to concentrate on feeding the roots of the grass because strong healthy grass will choke out the weeds. We don't need to concentrate on the weeds themselves. Likewise if we concentrate on the increase of Christ within, then the acts of the old nature will decrease.

Before the Lord apprehended me, I liked to play golf and I liked to play the card game of bridge. I was quite good at both. Then the Lord apprehended me. I did not "give up" anything. I just found that there were other things I enjoyed more, like reading the Bible, going to believers' meetings, worshipping the Lord, etc. So in terms of my desires, He increased and I decreased. However, if there are just too many weeds, then some action may be required to get rid of the weeds before planting grass seed. Consider what the Lord said to Jeremiah:

See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.  
Jeremiah 1:10

Note that four "negatives" come first. The kingdoms of man must come down before building and planting. The traditions of man must come down. The ways of man must come down. The works of man must come down. The plans and purposes of man must come down. So the Lord commanded Jeremiah to do 6 things. Which of those 6 things did Jeremiah actually do? NONE!!! There was no way that Jeremiah could do any of those 6 things. But Jeremiah did speak forth the word of God and the Lord did all of the work.

For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Hebrews 4:12

We will have more to say about Hebrews 4:12 in our next message, when we continue sharing about vision.

Until then, may the Lord continue to open our spiritual eyes to see who He is and what He is about in this hour.

A Sure Foundation

Below is but a  small  measure of revelation that my father had received from the Lord. I hope this will be a blessing to you. All that is w...